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10-23-2012, 06:59 PM | #121 |
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10-23-2012, 07:13 PM | #122 |
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10-23-2012, 07:23 PM | #123 |
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sounds like satanism.
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10-23-2012, 08:28 PM | #124 |
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You would be in denial of it. Some sociopaths know something is off with themselves, but they accept it and love it or they deny it. Scott Peterson is a sociopath.... who is also a narcissist. His wife getting pregnant really set him off.
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10-23-2012, 08:36 PM | #125 | |
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10-23-2012, 10:44 PM | #126 |
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I used to think I had a pretty underdeveloped capacity for empathy and I am very hot and cold with relationships, tend to require a lot of praise and tend to be drawn most to people who refuse to give it. But it doesn't seem that I'm full on personality disorder hopefully. Just average screwed up human
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10-23-2012, 10:46 PM | #127 |
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Being unable to empathize sure would make life weird. Secondhand embarrassment is one of my primary emotions
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10-23-2012, 11:05 PM | #128 |
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I get stuck when someone tells me about a problem they have and I either don't think it's a problem or else if they're complaining about another person, I don't feel that the other person has done anything wrong or worse still I think it's really the fault of the person I'm talking to. Unless they're a really, really close friend I've known for years I just can't fake an appropriate response because I hate lying but I'm also really averse to conflict with new acquaintances so I end up parroting back what they've said in an ORLY high pitched type voice, and making non-committal, cliched statements and I think I end up looking really vacant and dumb and weird. I'm trying to be better about saying what I think and not worrying.
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10-23-2012, 11:29 PM | #129 |
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I feel like those situations happen because the speaker is dancing around what they're actually upset about
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10-23-2012, 11:31 PM | #130 | |
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10-23-2012, 11:35 PM | #131 | |
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If it's about people, I feel like most people just want you to listen. If it's someone close I might give some kind of lose 'advice', or if they ask me straight up, otherwise I just try to ask questions that will help them elaborate and hopefully the whole interaction will help them feel better. I don't think most people expect to be able to really talk like that and usually it does seem to help. But then you get into being-their-therapist territory which I am pretty good at avoiding these days, but I have to be mindful. Some of you might have seen me attempt to be like this in PMs and such. Advice giving is overrated when it comes to feelings. imo. |
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10-23-2012, 11:37 PM | #132 |
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okay i guess but it's not about the morals it's about protecting yourself, so i mean it's a moral code in the same way as 'you shouldn't kill someone because you'll go to jail'. which sounds very sociopathic.
you shouldn't steal from your friends because you care about them and think that stealing is wrong in general but i guess the same result is achieved so that's good, however your reasons all hang on personal gain so as soon as that is gone (they aren't friends or whatever), all rules are out of the picture, so it's very ummmm precarious |
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10-23-2012, 11:41 PM | #133 | |
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like i know the guy i was with for 4 1/2 years, i am positive he will get caught at some point, and his narcissism will be what undoes him. because he's like a 10 year old and must get what he wants. Last edited by reprise85 : 10-23-2012 at 11:53 PM. |
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10-23-2012, 11:44 PM | #134 |
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Do you think they're actually upset at me? Or just something else. The idea that they're actually trying to let me know that they have a problem with me is pretty frightening. But could be accurate. OMG D:
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10-24-2012, 12:45 AM | #135 |
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ha well I didn't necessarily mean that. I just feel like if someone is going on and on about some pointless story then they're probably not disclosing some relevant details, maybe about the history of the relationships involved or even that the boring anecdote is actually tangential to what they really want to talk about but are afraid to. clearly they're upset, it's gotta be for an actual reason and not just because they care that much about their friend's haircut or what the fuck ever.
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10-24-2012, 01:37 AM | #136 | |
someone more...punk rock?
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10-24-2012, 01:38 AM | #137 |
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10-24-2012, 01:39 AM | #138 |
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yeah i get that
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10-24-2012, 01:40 AM | #139 |
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10-24-2012, 01:43 AM | #140 |
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itt: women out themselves as paranoid and crazy.
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10-24-2012, 01:44 AM | #141 |
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how do you know you're not schizophrenic
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10-24-2012, 01:48 AM | #142 |
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itt: men wonder if they should be paranoid about being schizophrenic.
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10-24-2012, 01:49 AM | #143 |
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itt: denial ensues on both sides until someone reboots this simulation. tune in on election day.
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10-24-2012, 01:50 AM | #144 |
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10-24-2012, 01:51 AM | #145 |
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10-24-2012, 01:53 AM | #146 |
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if murder was legal and taxed, i would buy a shitload of those stamps.
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10-24-2012, 01:57 AM | #147 |
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10-24-2012, 02:01 AM | #148 |
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more like an inborn tendency that helps you navigate your world. both of those things do that, but in very different ways. it is easy to attach the moral highground to altruism, but i do agree that it is not really much different as it's not something you really 'choose'. i just couldn't be happy doing sociopathic things, for example (as a strategy for achieving the things i want, i'm not saying i never do anything remotely sociopathic)
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10-24-2012, 02:04 AM | #149 |
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i feel like we a part of one big organism
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10-24-2012, 02:05 AM | #150 |
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it is very hard to really define things like an empathy quotient. that's why the DSM doesn't even try. anti-social personality disorder is defined by behaviors.
hare's psychopathy checklist attempts to go beyond that and is fairly successful at including behavior and character traits, but sociopathy/psychopathy is not a diagnosis |
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