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View Poll Results: Do you think/feel that ATUM is the true sequel to MCIS and Machina as promised? | |||
YES, ATUM is the TRUE SEQUEL AND FOLLOW-UP TO MCIS and MACHINA THAT WAS PROMISED | 5 | 17.86% | |
NO, it is NOT the TRUE SEQUEL AND WE HAVE BEEN MISLED | 21 | 75.00% | |
OTHER EXPLAIN IN COMMENTS | 2 | 7.14% | |
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01-23-2023, 07:30 AM | #31 |
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01-23-2023, 10:43 AM | #32 | |
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When Bill was riding high in Siamese Dream... and I guess some of Mellon Collie* although I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those lyrics were lifted or written by someone else tbh... but Bill talked about degrees of separation to imbue an unrelated word with meaning or just stream of conscious something with a rhyme scheme, and because fans sought deeper meaning, he bought into the idea he was somehow creating art with a deeper meaning, simply because his lyrics were obtuse** ... and THIS led him to think he could be a published poet. Just like he could be a world class producer... and vibrato singer... the arrogance to not realise the actual depth of intellect that goes into decent poetry & prose is staggering given he seemed well-read around the MCIS period... but then I guess wrestling plots or more his level. *Mellon Collie owes a lot to the aesthetic / influence of Yelena, if I have the timeline right.* **(difficult to comprehend : not clear or precise in thought or expression) |
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01-23-2023, 12:56 PM | #33 |
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MCIS part III (machina was part II. making Machina II part II.2)
so.... hard to follow, incredibly complex? or just useless complexities? I think billy assumes that it's some sort of me*ta fractal billy, the loon. billy, the alien. from space. born of mandrill pet owning tentacle armed aliens. A million piece jigsaw puzzle with no this, and no that |
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01-23-2023, 01:39 PM | #34 |
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Machina being "MCIS II" is just as much bullshit as the concept of this being a sequel to either of them
even in hip hop where this is more commonplace, it's almost always more marketing scheme than a true "artistic premise" but you know what, we're talking about it in detail, it worked. we are stupid Last edited by Joey Goldberg : 01-23-2023 at 01:50 PM. Reason: initially wrote "commonplace" as two words like a fucking IDIOT |
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01-23-2023, 01:43 PM | #35 |
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on that note though, this is still probably my favorite instance of "yeah nah fuck it, it's a sequel" i've ever seen
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01-23-2023, 01:57 PM | #36 |
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Plus, Machina has been out for over 20 years and only now is he clearly defining that it's supposed to be MCIS II. Because he just made that up in 2022.
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01-23-2023, 02:36 PM | #37 |
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SP fans love sequels. we love the convoluted number games.
I'm surprised Billy never played the "number your releases" like NIN's Halo count... or Jandeck's Corwood |
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01-23-2023, 03:04 PM | #38 |
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