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12-17-2021, 07:08 PM | #61 |
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bro you're comparing the way the audience of the strokes responded to the strokes at the time, with the way the audiences of taylor swift, lana del rey, and billie eilish respond to them today
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12-18-2021, 12:37 AM | #62 |
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yep. if 2001 zwan was what followed mcis instead of adore, it would have been absolutely fucking huge. everyone would have loved it. even if people had to wait 6 years in between.
i mean it pretty much was just a delayed continuation after tafh, with some of the gravity demos being used for zwan songs and all. |
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12-18-2021, 07:03 AM | #63 | |
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and I'm sure we had artists in the 70's that were also 'kids of older musicians'. Michael Jackson had family pedgree in the buisness. Any intelligent parent would (should) encourage their children to NOT persue a career in the arts (or sports) regardless of talent. The success rate is the worst. But if you're born in money, you can afford to take the risk (like any buisness venture is easier for someone with a safety net). I'm not making a jugement on a trend. |
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12-18-2021, 07:19 AM | #64 |
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The Billie Eilish "well connected family" is a bit of myth, imo. Her parents are minor league actors and her career took off on Myspace or YT.
Props to Jacob Dylan for a great career despite the hunting, cumbersome family name. |
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12-19-2021, 07:51 PM | #65 |
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It seems to be that In quite a few cases children who have parents who were singers and/or musicians, but not hugely successful or didn't live up to their potential, tend to do well.
They probably get taught all the most important parts of theory and playing and writing techniques and what to listen to early in their life so they build upon their parents knowledge and progress further. |
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12-19-2021, 07:54 PM | #66 |
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Corgan Sr. didn't support BC until after he was very successful. Yeah, he learned from him, but his father discouraged him from pursuing music his whole childhood, according to old BC blogs. I highly doubt he actually taught him any theory or writing techniques explicitly. Certainly it sounds like he exposed him to a wide range of music, but I think BC is being very generous in his RIP video. He may have inspired BC, but it wasn't on purpose.
Unless the old BC was lying, which is possible. edit: oh, I thought we were in the other thread. yeah I agree about other artists |
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12-19-2021, 09:50 PM | #67 |
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He certainly used his studio equipment and learned about studio recording techniques and pedals etc.
Edit: didn't realise his Dad had died, my Dad died last year, it's not fun. Last edited by CherryRay : 12-19-2021 at 09:57 PM. |
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12-20-2021, 03:13 PM | #68 | |
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12-22-2021, 06:29 AM | #69 |
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billie eilish? sick of her spoken word humming , always the same bored out music.
now she has problems with porn(stars) ...what a waste she is. concerning pumpkins: this video footage of billy singing christmas shows once prooves his loss of lyrics, emotions, and singing. he performs like an uninspired 70 year old dude who has no motivation at all. i gonna listen to the new mcis3 song on youtube in 2024? can anyone tell bill (Insta) that his singing style got even worse |
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12-22-2021, 11:32 AM | #70 |
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08-02-2022, 03:56 PM | #71 | |
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Oh and this thread should be archived |
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08-02-2022, 07:30 PM | #72 |
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oh my god you couldn't pay me enough to read that, let alone this whole thread ugh my tummy hurts
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08-02-2022, 07:33 PM | #73 |
Minion of Satan
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you're not even a little intrigued by 3 pages of speculation & shit-talk about the rise & supposed "fall" of the MIGHTY SP???
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08-02-2022, 07:33 PM | #74 |
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blocked, reported, & gagged
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08-03-2022, 12:14 AM | #75 |
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I don't have any answer, other than to pick out just how high of a level he once was at. What he was doing shouldn't have been possible coming from just one person. But then from what I can tell, every musician who's ever flown so high has only had a relatively short time near the sun.
But if I was to guess, and I've mentioned this before, his bad taste caught up to him before his songwriting talent faded. Something about the '90s tamed him. But eventually, world weary and having accomplished everything he could have reasonably dreamed of, he became a different person, and songs with great potential always seemed to take a wrong turn. These days, I'm sure he's still a wealth of knowledge about songwriting, but I'm not sure there is much of a spark left, relative to the standard he himself set. Interestingly, quite a number of years ago now, I made a comment, on this forum probably, that I'm sure he's still talented, but—does he have anything left to say, or does he just keep going because it's what he's always done. Very shortly thereafter, Billy was interviewed saying, and I'm paraphrasing, "I think I've still got something left to say." haha. Basically exactly the question I had posed. Probably just coincidence. |
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08-03-2022, 12:59 AM | #76 |
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Tha rise and fall of ya mom. How bout dat?
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08-03-2022, 08:33 PM | #77 |
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hey billy what's up
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08-04-2022, 05:40 AM | #78 |
Ownz
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Yeah man it’s hard but I’m getting there. Was working on a new song today called Queen of the Meadow. It’s probably the best song I’ve ever written and it’s just sitting there, on a computer, someplace.
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