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Old 02-04-2024, 12:00 AM   #301
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where are you from Rairun, if I may ask?
I'm from Brazil. Grew up there, immigrated in my mid-twenties.

Anyway, I think I'm going to leave this thread now because I feel like anything else I say will be useless. I don't particularly want to fight with ilikeplanets and MyOneAndOnly (I know we're not friends, but over the years it's been nice to know there's a queer caucus of sorts around here), but those last few comments have truly left me stunned. Israel is not in any shape or form 'liberating' queer Palestinians, they're bombing them, their families, and their friends. You can't pinkwash any of this. The hijab comment made me particularly sad too. I've known people who wore one. They were sweet.

 
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Old 02-04-2024, 01:32 AM   #302
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That comment wasn't a slight at people who wear hijab, and I don't know how it could have read that way to you.

She was referring to the lunacy and misguided nature around people that would be human targets for the people they're "defending" stomping around a city in the US in traditional Middle Eastern attire. One that is often symbolic of oppression, at that.

I don't want to fight with anyone. After several months of these horrendous discussions, I have finally found the correct measure of dissociation needed to avoid taking any of it personally while maintaining my fire.

 
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Old 02-04-2024, 10:00 AM   #303
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... liberal hatred for Jews right now ... I have liberal friends ....
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one of my trans friends ...

people have lost their damn minds
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ceasefire, which was supposed to solve everything (stupid but pervasive opinion),
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the lunacy and misguided nature around people that would be human targets for the people they're "defending" stomping around a city in the US in traditional Middle Eastern attire.
throughout this thread both of you have been continually ignoring the thoughtful and informed criticism of israel that people are posting and instead implying that that criticism is somehow aligned with more uninformed or radical or racist positions of "other people you know" or "people on the internet." classic bullshit fox news strategy. nobody here is making the straw man arguments y'all are pushing back against. of course various dumbass people on both sides of this issue will have bad, lazy, radical takes--just like with any issue.

what they/we are saying is more significant than just "some moron bought a hijab," it's that israel is *harming itself* by performing serious war crimes/genocide, which, looking at the UN definition, is hard to argue with.

"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

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Old 02-04-2024, 10:47 AM   #304
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No, I said that if Israel doesn't take military action then it will be destroyed by violence

And I said that if there's no Israel, then that's a deadly problem for Jews

I haven't been ignoring criticism. I've provided criticism while acknowledging that it's basically an impossible problem to solve if people refuse to peacefully share space.

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Old 02-04-2024, 04:26 PM   #305
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I mean, I literally just quoted you doing the straw-man thing. You can't just say "no I didn't." But whatever.

 
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Old 02-04-2024, 05:22 PM   #306
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I'm from Brazil. Grew up there, immigrated in my mid-twenties.
Ah yes I did know this

 
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Old 02-04-2024, 11:49 PM   #307
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And I said that if there's no Israel, then that's a deadly problem for Jews

Do we really need fascist ethno-states in the 21st century?

The answer is yes. I won't rest until the Scientologists have our own homeland. I don't care who has to suffer until we make this happen.

Iceland with all your fucking volcanoes better watch the fuck out from my boy Xenu.

 
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Old 02-05-2024, 05:48 AM   #308
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What's your evidence that pro Hamas "activists" would ever vote for the bad orange man?

I'm trying to tread lightly, since I was threatened with a ban from "the powers that be."
Feel free to prove the points I was making earlier by never replying.

 
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Old 02-17-2024, 04:42 PM   #309
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OK, I guess that ends that. Everyone pack your bags. Pay attention, because the "celebrity" just schooled us.

Marvel Actor Mark Ruffalo Demands Ceasefire In Gaza And Israel: “We’re Not Going To Bomb Our Way To Peace’

 
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Old 02-17-2024, 05:33 PM   #310
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petition to ban this asswipe. does it need its own thread?

 
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Old 02-17-2024, 05:55 PM   #311
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OK, I guess that ends that. Everyone pack your bags. Pay attention, because the "celebrity" just schooled us.

Marvel Actor Mark Ruffalo Demands Ceasefire In Gaza And Israel: “We’re Not Going To Bomb Our Way To Peace’
Ends what? You never reply to anything.

Why the parentheses? He is a celebrity, no matter how you turn it.

 
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Old 02-18-2024, 12:15 PM   #312
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Rightwing obsession with what celebrities say is so weird, like they’re not human beings or something

 
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Old 02-18-2024, 12:15 PM   #313
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Like, sucking the teat of oil barons and bitcoin shucksters but being all STFU HOLLYWOOD

 
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Old 02-18-2024, 09:17 PM   #314
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OK, I guess that ends that. Everyone pack your bags. Pay attention, because the "celebrity" just schooled us.

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You’re a retard.

 
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Old 02-19-2024, 05:52 PM   #315
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Like, sucking the teat of oil barons and bitcoin shucksters but being all STFU HOLLYWOOD
Yeah it's a joke. Cynicism become religion.

 
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