4/12/94 next archive release

[Elvis The Fat Years]

https://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php...=Tsp1994-04-12

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[eyeboogers]

Are you sure that it's a music release, I think it is just about that pumpkin scented candle being available at Zuzus.

[New Art Rioter]

There will be something. From the look of it, a hideously expensive candle you have to buy to get a facsimile cassette with bits missing because they don't want to deal with licensing/royalties for covers again. Prove me wrong Corgan!

[Ram27]

oh i was hoping this was a copperpot thing

is it a tape? vinyl? i was hoping to buy now but i guess i have to wait til midnite on thanksgiving because the kids are cl******g for the 1994-04-12 SBD

[Ram27]

these spring 94 SD shows are vintage pure peak pumpkins. love how fast they play everything, the sound is so blissed out

[Reyngel]

Yeah those are some of the best shows of their entire careers. That LSD + bigger crowd + Billy with some confidence shows are fucking incredible.

[Joey Goldberg]

not sure what's wilder, the fact that the 2 main pumpkin shows being talked about on the board right now are the exact same date, 5 years a part, or the fact that - despite the wild differences between albums from '93-'00 and all the other crazy shit they went through in those years alone - how unmistakable the actual band itself is in both shows

that's the best way I can describe it right now and if you don't like it you can fuck off!

[TheAlter]

Lmao it’s a candle you pillocks, don’t you see the partnership with some lolajamessharper?

This is Yoko Corgan taking over the SP biz empire. Still a better idea than ATUM

[Spaldz]

Nice - When Frank went through the vault collection this show wasn't listed as having a SBD for.

I won't complain too much about another archive release as i'm extremely pleased - I just wish the Pumpkins crew would go through SPLRA and check if we have any recordings for a show and prioritise the ones where no audience recording exists!

[jimmy drevpile]

Originally Posted by Spaldz

Nice - When Frank went through the vault collection this show wasn't listed as having a SBD for.

I won't complain too much about another archive release as i'm extremely pleased - I just wish the Pumpkins crew would go through SPLRA and check if we have any recordings for a show and prioritise the ones where no audience recording exists!

Imagine a professional archivist coordinating such a ridiculously.complex piece of work. Would take at least 10 years or so, minimum, to be able to cross reference one database with another...

[Ram27]

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

not sure what's wilder, the fact that the 2 main pumpkin shows being talked about on the board right now are the exact same date, 5 years a part, or the fact that - despite the wild differences between albums from '93-'00 and all the other crazy shit they went through in those years alone - how unmistakable the actual band itself is in both shows

that's the best way I can describe it right now and if you don't like it you can fuck off!

INSANE when you put it like that. i know 99-94 is 5 but christ that's all of MCIS and adore in there

[meatngreet]

Cassette track listing is missing Soma. Maybe omitted? Will be great to hear it, but it’s a strange choice for a release, as it’s not a particularly interesting show, especially given the shows around it. The show just before this one on 4/10/94 is epic. Only Tristessa of the spring 94 tour, Sweet Sweet, Mayonaise, Luna, early version of Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Starla, Never Let Me Down, etc. Maybe it was a matter of having recorded some shows and not others?

4/10/94 was two hours long.

[T&T]

Originally Posted by meatngreet

Cassette track listing is missing Soma. Maybe omitted? Will be great to hear it, but it’s a strange choice for a release, as it’s not a particularly interesting show, especially given the shows around it. The show just before this one on 4/10/94 is epic. Only Tristessa of the spring 94 tour, Sweet Sweet, Mayonaise, Luna, early version of Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Starla, Never Let Me Down, etc. Maybe it was a matter of having recorded some shows and not others?

4/10/94 was two hours long.

man, this used to be SUCH a great band.

[houseofglass11]

They can keep the Goop candle. Look forward to downloading a rip of this for free on soulseek.

[Slygmous]

Originally Posted by meatngreet

Cassette track listing is missing Soma. Maybe omitted? Will be great to hear it, but it’s a strange choice for a release, as it’s not a particularly interesting show, especially given the shows around it. The show just before this one on 4/10/94 is epic. Only Tristessa of the spring 94 tour, Sweet Sweet, Mayonaise, Luna, early version of Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Starla, Never Let Me Down, etc. Maybe it was a matter of having recorded some shows and not others?

4/10/94 was two hours long.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Billy didn't have his ADAT recording setup until 1995, maybe starting with the Double Door shows?
So professional recordings from before this may be spotty and vary in quality. He may have selected this show if it just sounds better.

That said, I have no idea why these archival releases are largely skipping the ADAT recorded shows. I think it's just the Viper Room?

[T&T]

IIRC billy's "crew of retard misfits" hauled around an 8track tape recorder to tape the shows. now sure how he afforded all that tape (cause it's not cheap).

[paranoid]

they must think pumpkins fans are incredibly stupid (and they are) if they think they can get away with pedaling this crap.

can't wait to see the price on this one.

[paranoid]

they finally release something from the archive i want and they make it a cassette so they can pedal these dumb candles.

[Ram27]

oh it's a fucking cassette? jesus christ

this is what you press on vinyl not fucking canadide

[thomas_bland]

Saved me spending £100, i'm okay with this.

[Joey Goldberg]

it's a tape so you can just put it on the burning candle and become a bona fide member of the Rat Bastard Brigade right from your own home

[thomas_bland]

You've gotta admit that vinyl would have been a nicer burn though.

[Joey Goldberg]

i don't have to do SHIT

i'm not admitting SHIT

[Ram27]

i don't take shit from nobody especially not a man with a tank top and a mustache

tank tops are OUT

jef is OUT

vinyl is OUT

[meatngreet]

Interestingly, Nashville 4/12/94 is one of the few SD shows not to have I Am One, and by extension no rant. Maybe that factored in. They listened back to the recordings and even they didn’t want to hear that nonsense. Maybe it ruined the vibe of the candles.

[NovaFritz]

I’m so pumped for this. I hope they ******* some limited edition scents. I hate how they always inflate the price of these tapers with some records nobody wants. Just throw in some more wax Billy!

[Joey Goldberg]

you hope they do what to some limited edition scents?

[Gooch]

I’m just going to buy it to get the special candle and tea

[meatngreet]

Originally Posted by meatngreet

Interestingly, Nashville 4/12/94 is one of the few SD shows not to have I Am One, and by extension no rant. Maybe that factored in. They listened back to the recordings and even they didn’t want to hear that nonsense. Maybe it ruined the vibe of the candles.

Actually, there must be an edit after Siva on the existing audience recording, even though it’s listed as complete on splra. The way the audience recording is now, there isn’t an encore break between Siva and Silverfuck, which can’t be right. And the cover of the cassette in the candle video has I Am One and Starla listed after Siva, which must be missing from the audience recording.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

Lmao it’s a candle you pillocks, don’t you see the partnership with some lolajamessharper?

Indeed, it's just a candle in the wind ))):

https://www.lolajamesharper.com/prod...er-walk-candle


And they are not the cheapest, 64€ !!!