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Old 06-28-2022, 11:14 AM   #151
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He was generally supportive of gay rights too when he threatened to break a trans woman's legs because he was afraid people would call him gay.
He was an a$$hole for threatening violence, but he had every right to "beg off politely" and to keep his sexual life a private matter.

 
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Old 06-28-2022, 12:26 PM   #152
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He said nothing degrading about anyone's gender or sexuality. His brother (Spaceboy) is gay and he openly talks about supporting gay "rights"

You should listen to his conversation with Daniel Johns.

Who is Daniel Johns? https://open.spotify.com/episode/1tR...SJaV7GDWTHJDSw
he's a homophobe/transphobe/misogynist.

having a gay family member doesn't make him unassailable. It makes him a fucking hypocrite.

 
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Old 06-28-2022, 12:39 PM   #153
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Old 06-28-2022, 01:40 PM   #154
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He was an a$$hole for threatening violence, but he had every right to "beg off politely" and to keep his sexual life a private matter.
No one is saying any one individual has the right to to sleep with you. If you don't want to, no one is going to make you. No one owes sex to anyone.

But if a cis woman told her friends that some guy didn't sleep with her because, say, she had stretch marks, and he then sought her out to say that if she didn't shut her mouth, he would break both her legs - would you really describe this man as just an "asshole"?

An asshole would talk shit about her. An asshole would double down and say she was ugly. An asshole would, perhaps, not keep her sexual life private. But pulling her aside and threatening to put her in a wheelchair, especially when you consider how many trans people are actually harmed and killed in this exact situation, goes way beyond that. This isn't Billy being an asshole. This is him being a violent, dangerous abuser.

 
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Old 06-28-2022, 01:58 PM   #155
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he's a homophobe/transphobe/misogynist.

having a gay family member doesn't make him unassailable. It makes him a fucking hypocrite.
For the record, we are arguing with a dude who thinks Jair Bolsonaro is a bit too left-wing economically, and that Bolsonaro and Lula (moderate centre-left candidate) are two sides of the same coin. I will no longer be responding to him.

 
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Old 06-28-2022, 02:46 PM   #156
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Leave everything to the market.

 
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Old 06-28-2022, 06:19 PM   #157
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For the record, we are arguing with a dude who thinks Jair Bolsonaro is a bit too left-wing economically, and that Bolsonaro and Lula (radical left, previously convicted on charges of money laundering and corruption candidate) are two sides of the same coin. I will no longer be responding to him.

 
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Old 06-28-2022, 10:05 PM   #158
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is he still selling records?

 
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Old 06-29-2022, 08:58 AM   #159
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is he still selling records?
Could you even tell (in reference to Rubano tapes)?

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 05:42 PM   #160
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why it's no the album version ?

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:03 AM   #161
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why it's no the album version ?
Just like with Owata, he botched it in the studio. After the first two tracks, he riddled all the songs on Oceania with that synth. So this song went from the version they were playing live to a neutered version with terrible vocals.

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:06 AM   #162
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FTR that pre Oceania tour wasn't terrible. The Oceania tracks sounded better than on the album. And bill played a lot of old songs that he otherwise never plays.

Also, Kerry Brown was still hanging around trying to promote the Smashing Pumpkins Record Club. LOL

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 10:18 AM   #163
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I hope demo on the reissue

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 10:20 AM   #164
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I hope demo on the reissue

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 11:54 AM   #165
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I hope demo on the reissue

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:20 PM   #166
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I, for one, hope demo on the reissue

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:53 PM   #167
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To be honest, I’m not much concerned as to whether demo on the reissue or not.

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:58 PM   #168
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I hope reissue the demo

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 01:04 PM   #169
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Old 06-05-2023, 01:33 PM   #170
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I hope demo on the reissue


wonder if that would mean we could hear Mike's click track?

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 08:38 PM   #171
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Reissue hope I on the demo

 
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Old 06-05-2023, 10:42 PM   #172
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what're you, on drugs?

 
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Old 06-06-2023, 01:25 PM   #173
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He said nothing degrading about anyone's gender or sexuality. His brother (Spaceboy) is gay and he openly talks about supporting gay "rights"

You should listen to his conversation with Daniel Johns.

Who is Daniel Johns? https://open.spotify.com/episode/1tR...SJaV7GDWTHJDSw
His brother is also...you know...

 
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Old 06-06-2023, 06:13 PM   #174
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he openly talks about supporting gay "rights"
Where has he?

 
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Old 06-07-2023, 07:23 AM   #175
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This album sucks!

 
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Old 06-07-2023, 10:31 AM   #176
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Where has he?
Interviews, podcast, Instagram etc

 
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His brother is also...you know...
From another mother?

 
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