comparing S.P. to the Beatles and Radiohead to Pink Floyd

Catherine Wheel · 01-09-2010, 08:33 PM

Is it fair to say that the Smashing Pumpkins are the Beatles of their generation and Radiohead are the Pink Floyd of their generation?

thomas_bland · 01-09-2010, 08:39 PM

No because the beatles are popular. I love the Pumpkins but they are not popular.

redbull · 01-09-2010, 08:46 PM

no because radiohead are better than sp

Catherine Wheel · 01-09-2010, 08:58 PM

I think the Smashing Pumpkins are better as a rock band. Radiohead are more interesting as an electronic group.

redbreegull · 01-09-2010, 09:00 PM

Nirvana was the Beatles of their generation.

wHATcOLOR · 01-09-2010, 09:47 PM

are they a techno band

28if · 01-09-2010, 10:44 PM

this is an awful analogy

slunken · 01-09-2010, 11:03 PM

even worse as its own thread

Gish08 · 01-10-2010, 12:18 AM

SP fucked up their mainstream potential after MCIS. I don't think they cared though, and if we're talking from an artistic perspective, it was for the better

Machinist · 01-10-2010, 05:16 AM

Fuck, Christ was right - this troll knows how to get maximum response with minimum effort

redbreegull · 01-10-2010, 06:13 AM

Catherine Wheel is not a troll.

cardiac · 01-10-2010, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catherine Wheel

I think the Smashing Pumpkins are better as a rock band.

But then again:

smashingjj · 01-10-2010, 09:49 AM

it is very fair to say that. your analogy is correct and relevant in every imaginable way. i applaud you, Catherine Wheel. this is groundbreaking.

duovamp · 01-10-2010, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardiac

But then again:

Muzzle beats the ass out of this for a wuss-rock song played live.

SPLATTER · 01-10-2010, 11:38 AM

this is the type of thing is used to seriously waste time thinking about around 94- 95

CrabbMan · 01-10-2010, 12:47 PM

The Beatles had two incredible song writers and were collectively a better group of musicians that the Smashing Pumpkins. SP are hands down my favorite band, and I think Billy is a better song writer than that Lennon/McCartney guy who wrote all the Beatles' songs, but I think objectively you can't really put SP at the level of the Beatles.

killtrocity · 01-10-2010, 12:52 PM

No band was the Beatles of this generation.

redbull · 01-10-2010, 03:26 PM

penis

Order 66 · 01-10-2010, 04:06 PM

Its fair to say RH s the PInk Floyd of our gen. But SP is its own animal, analogous with no band before it. I guess you could say SP is an amalgam of all rock bands from the mid-60s to 80s

redbreegull · 01-10-2010, 04:11 PM

Aside from being influenced by the Beatles (like pretty much everything to come after them) SP is not like them at all. Radiohead might be a little more like Pink Floyd because they are the weird experimental band that managed to be immensely popular anyway, but ultimately they aren't that similar either. Bad analogy.

Ultimately there is no band from generation x that comes close to matching the cultural power and musical influence/creativity of The Beatles. Nirvana comes closest because they got so big so fast and shaped the aesthetic of the early 90s in a lot of ways.

redbreegull · 01-10-2010, 04:14 PM

Also, SP and Radiohead are my two favorite bands but come on, this was one of the greatest rock bands of all time

Order 66 · 01-10-2010, 04:15 PM

I would say nirvana is a rough equivalent of led zeppelin

Deric · 01-10-2010, 04:30 PM

We can't just transpose the bands into other bands to do a shitty comparison. The only truth is that 1979 is the best song of the 90s.

redbreegull · 01-10-2010, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Order 66

I would say nirvana is a rough equivalent of led zeppelin

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deric

The only truth is that 1979 is the best song of the 90s.

Order 66 · 01-10-2010, 04:53 PM

when you look at their impact and what they did for rock, I don't think you can find a bad more analogous to nirvana. I'm not saying they're equals or even similar

redbull · 01-10-2010, 05:16 PM

not sure i'm following. i'd think soundgarden would be much closer to zeppelin

Order 66 · 01-10-2010, 05:39 PM

I'm talking more along the lines of cultural impact and how rock was shaped for the next decade. Soundgarden came close I guess, they were pretty big but IMO not quite that big.

Order 66 · 01-10-2010, 05:43 PM

this is anecdotal, but I lived through the grunge thing. I'd say nirvana was the biggest thing, pearl jam second, with SP and s.garden probably about equal until MCIS rolled around

28if · 01-10-2010, 05:46 PM

lover, should've come over is the best song of the 90's

hnibos · 01-10-2010, 05:58 PM

cw is an impressive troll

01-09-2010, 08:33 PM	#1
Catherine Wheel Banned Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 6,310	comparing S.P. to the Beatles and Radiohead to Pink Floyd Is it fair to say that the Smashing Pumpkins are the Beatles of their generation and Radiohead are the Pink Floyd of their generation?

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