european shows

[behived]

For the moment they have 3 shows in Europe (England and Ireland): https://www.facebook.com/smashingpumpkins/events

Does anyone know more about this? Are they going to do more shows in Europe?

[behived]

ok, found this:

so it will only be UK/Ireland then...

[Forgotten Child]

How to say you're American without saying you're American:

Originally Posted by TheAlter

it is dubbed as 'UK & Ireland tour,' probably because it is not Europe, but yeah makes sense to expect a string of euro festival shows in June-July as well

[AveryLoren]

Why is TSP billed over Weezer?

[ourruseoffools]

Originally Posted by AveryLoren

Why is TSP billed over Weezer?

I was thinking the same

[horsefly]

Makes sense. I'm old and out of touch so could be way off, but Weezer fell off a cliff much sooner and harder than the Pumpkins did. The only thing Weezer get now is Buddy Holly on "Kerrang's Top 100 Videos".

[Forgotten Child]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

But, but…I’m European!

Probably not from the UK, cause they are not Europeans. And Ireland is part of the UK, so...

[behived]

UK has LEFT EU but is still part of Europe. This does not change the fact that I would like to know if SP is coming to the rest of Europe as well

[Forgotten Child]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

How to say you're not European without saying you're not European:

The problem with being sarcastic is that when people don't understand you, you're the one who ends up looking like an idiot.

[eviltimeban]

Wow! Gonna go to this. First time the Pumpkins have played Dublin since 2007 I think.

[Forgotten Child]

Definitely seeing them in Dublin and probably in Cardiff. I haven't been to Wales yet

[T&T]

[ourruseoffools]

Originally Posted by horsefly

Makes sense. I'm old and out of touch so could be way off, but Weezer fell off a cliff much sooner and harder than the Pumpkins did. The only thing Weezer get now is Buddy Holly on "Kerrang's Top 100 Videos".

This isn’t true. Young people are obsessed with weezer

[ourruseoffools]

Sznz was a way more popular project than atum

[horsefly]

Originally Posted by ourruseoffools

This isn’t true. Young people are obsessed with weezer

Oh they are? Well, like I said, I'm old and out of touch and don't go noncing on the tiktoks.

To be clear though, is this an "in general" claim or specifically about the UK?
Because I thought general idiot opinion around here was there was the debut, there was the disappointment of Pinkerton, then Hash Pipe, and then that Beverley Hills singalong.

[T&T]

Island in the sun gets huge plays.

[phang]

Yeah I'll be trying to go to this, see which date works best for us. Never been to Cardiff Castle for a gig so I might give that a try, done the Utilita in Birmingham and the O2 in London a few times each.

I also like Weezer, and my wife likes them more than she does SP, so it's a win-win for us both.

[New Art Rioter]

o2 for me. Cardiff Castle stands out though as the nicest venue by a long way, so might try to do that too. Weezer I like, but I'd never travel to see them headline so I'm pretty happy with that lineup.

Worth noting the Eden Project will be running gigs around then too, could possibly be added.

[slayed23]

If you do a google trends comparison on Weezer and Smashing Pumpkins, it’s about the same.

[Joey Goldberg]

fun to pretend tho

fuzzy would be so happy

[ourruseoffools]

I love weezer so much I wish James would join weezer

[AveryLoren]

Weezer are 3-4 times bigger than TSP based on social media metrics. Hell, even if you go by antiquated stuff like sales figures Weezer have had several top ten billboard album releases recently. Weezer has also had four #1 singles in the last three years. TSP only have one #1 with 1979.

[Forgotten Child]

I really don't like Weezer. I'd rather see them playing with some UK band like Suede.

[Joey Goldberg]

Suede could limit themselves to a thirtieth of their overall recorded output and still fucking crush both bands as a live act in 2023

[Forgotten Child]

Instead, they are opening for the Manic Street Preachers

[Ram27]

mbv / pumpkins twin bill when

[Joey Goldberg]

they're not "opening" for them they've been doing a co-headlining thing for the past year

i know because i saw one of the shows, and also, they've both gone into detail about it

FUCK!

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by Ram27

mbv / pumpkins twin bill when

Oh fuck I would spend so much for that

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by AveryLoren

Why is TSP billed over Weezer?

Hard for me to objectively answer this one, despite liking Weezer, but...

And I'm not even sure what metric we are using nowadays to determine recent success of a band, but:

Beguiled's video on YouTube has 2.3m views (admittedly, I had forgotten the name of that song - took me a minute) and the singles from the first two EPs of SZNZ have 1 million (A little bit of love) and 318k (records) play counts.

Obviously YouTube prob isn't the best metric, but it says something, right?

But regardless, I think as tossed around here, it's a co-headlining tour.

Not a bad pairing. Good levels of nostalgia between the two, similar fanbase... and both of their recent album endeavors were WAY too ambitious.

[ourruseoffools]

A little bit of love fucking sucks tho and billy buys views. All my favorite songs was a big hit for weezer as recently as 2021