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02-04-2023, 11:27 AM | #1 |
Demi-God
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Should I assign ATUM in class?
I teach a dystopian literature course at a small community college. I'm thinking about having my students do a writing prompt where they analyze albums conceptualized around dystopian settings/themes, and then comparing and contrasting them with the books we've read in class. I'm thinking of just giving them a list of like 15-20 albums to pick from. We'll have Animals, 2112, Kid A, Deltron 3030, Diamond Dogs, Year Zero, and more for students to choose between.
Should ATUM be included in the list of options? |
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02-04-2023, 11:39 AM | #2 |
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no. don't bother the kids with this trash.
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02-04-2023, 12:00 PM | #3 |
Demi-God
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How about "Machina".
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02-04-2023, 12:03 PM | #4 |
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Add it as an option, whoever picks it fails the class instantly.
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02-04-2023, 12:13 PM | #5 |
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I believe that's called child abuse
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02-04-2023, 12:14 PM | #6 |
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02-04-2023, 12:24 PM | #7 |
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You could use it as an opportunity to introduce them to great music. Like Kid A yes. You wanna freak them out, make them discover the hidden booklet on the Kid A cd.
But you ain't gonna do it. You want to expose them to ATUM, you hate those kids dont' you? |
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02-04-2023, 12:27 PM | #8 |
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You'll definitely be made fun of
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02-04-2023, 12:45 PM | #9 |
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02-04-2023, 12:45 PM | #10 |
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02-04-2023, 12:49 PM | #11 |
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02-04-2023, 12:50 PM | #12 |
Demi-God
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I don't hate atum nearly as much as all of you but also know it's dogshit in comparison to stuff like Animals and any other album that'd potentially be included, and feel weird about juxtaposing them as part of the same assignment
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02-04-2023, 12:51 PM | #13 |
Demi-God
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02-04-2023, 12:52 PM | #14 |
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Also if anyone has recommendations for other dystopian concept records I could use, let me know. I'd like to represent as many genres as possible.
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02-04-2023, 12:53 PM | #15 |
Braindead
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If you do it, make them write a brief opinion about it and share them here. Or send them directly to Billy.
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02-04-2023, 12:53 PM | #16 |
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02-04-2023, 12:56 PM | #17 |
Demi-God
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I definitely will if I use it and someone picks it. The class has 15 students. I could also do this in a way that I assign a particular album to each student, like Jack Black does in School of Rock. Imagine being the kid that is given ATUM while the student sitting next to you gets Pink Floyd. What type of person would be the appropriate recipient of ATUM?
Last edited by LoveIsSuicide42 : 02-04-2023 at 01:22 PM. |
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02-04-2023, 12:59 PM | #18 |
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02-04-2023, 01:35 PM | #19 |
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
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no
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02-04-2023, 01:40 PM | #20 |
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I’d love to see the ratemyprofessor review for this. “He made the class listen to some creepy album that had an old lady croaking on every song”
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02-04-2023, 02:12 PM | #21 |
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If you want them to think you have fucking awful taste in music, sure.
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02-04-2023, 02:58 PM | #22 |
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02-04-2023, 03:08 PM | #23 |
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Yes please
And post their responses and reactions here |
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02-04-2023, 03:50 PM | #24 |
Ownz
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Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!
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02-04-2023, 06:18 PM | #25 |
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As a concept album or dystopian story, ATUM is trash and does not tell a story. And that is the major problem with ATUM. On its own, it does not tell a story. All that BS context comes from Billy and his podcast, not the music itself. Find a better concept album where the album actually tells a story, not pretends to tell a story. You'd be better with Nine Inch Nails' Year Zero or Radiohead's Kid A. The lyrics, music, and art tell a story.
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02-04-2023, 09:33 PM | #26 |
Ownz
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6 months later:
"and this is why I and the board of governors have decided to have you barred from teaching ever again. Hand over your license and your firearm." |
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02-05-2023, 03:32 PM | #27 |
Demi-God
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After spending last night and this morning listening to the other albums I intend to use, I don't think I can, in good conscience, ******* ATUM alongside them. Sorry for those of you that were looking to get a laugh out of it.
The tougher question I'm dealing with now is in relation to Joe's Garage by Zappa. It's a great dystopian concept record, but... that album cover |
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02-05-2023, 04:16 PM | #28 |
Demi-God
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Why the fuck is the word in
clude cesnored? Is netphoria that much against being inclusive? |
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02-05-2023, 04:23 PM | #29 |
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Jesus Christ no please dont do this
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02-05-2023, 04:53 PM | #30 | |
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Quote:
How about this last minute suggestion btw? Amazing concept album, chock full o'bangers Last edited by TheAlter : 02-05-2023 at 05:07 PM. |
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