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Old 02-04-2023, 11:27 AM   #1
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I teach a dystopian literature course at a small community college. I'm thinking about having my students do a writing prompt where they analyze albums conceptualized around dystopian settings/themes, and then comparing and contrasting them with the books we've read in class. I'm thinking of just giving them a list of like 15-20 albums to pick from. We'll have Animals, 2112, Kid A, Deltron 3030, Diamond Dogs, Year Zero, and more for students to choose between.

Should ATUM be included in the list of options?

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 11:39 AM   #2
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no. don't bother the kids with this trash.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:00 PM   #3
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How about "Machina".

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:03 PM   #4
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Add it as an option, whoever picks it fails the class instantly.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:13 PM   #5
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I believe that's called child abuse

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:14 PM   #6
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Add it as an option, whoever picks it fails the class instantly.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:24 PM   #7
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You could use it as an opportunity to introduce them to great music. Like Kid A yes. You wanna freak them out, make them discover the hidden booklet on the Kid A cd.

But you ain't gonna do it. You want to expose them to ATUM, you hate those kids dont' you?

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:27 PM   #8
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You'll definitely be made fun of

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:45 PM   #9
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I believe that's called child abuse
They're all 18-25ish I think, so adults, but still within Bolly's Gen Z target audience. What if they actually liked it?

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:45 PM   #10
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You'll definitely be made fun of
If they don't like the album I will just make fun of it with them.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:49 PM   #11
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They're all 18-25ish I think, so within Bolly's Gen Z target audience. What if they actually liked it?
I believe you need to pay a royalty to Billy to play it in class

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:50 PM   #12
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I don't hate atum nearly as much as all of you but also know it's dogshit in comparison to stuff like Animals and any other album that'd potentially be included, and feel weird about juxtaposing them as part of the same assignment

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:51 PM   #13
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I believe you need to pay a royalty to Billy to play it in class
Won't play it in class, they'll listen on their own time as homework. I don't want everyone to start dancing.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:52 PM   #14
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Also if anyone has recommendations for other dystopian concept records I could use, let me know. I'd like to represent as many genres as possible.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:53 PM   #15
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If you do it, make them write a brief opinion about it and share them here. Or send them directly to Billy.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:53 PM   #16
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Also if anyone has recommendations for other dystopian concept records I could use, let me know. I'd like to represent as many genres as possible.
Zeitgeist. Lol

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 12:56 PM   #17
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If you do it, make them write a brief opinion about it and share them here. Or send them directly to Billy.
I definitely will if I use it and someone picks it. The class has 15 students. I could also do this in a way that I assign a particular album to each student, like Jack Black does in School of Rock. Imagine being the kid that is given ATUM while the student sitting next to you gets Pink Floyd. What type of person would be the appropriate recipient of ATUM?

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Old 02-04-2023, 12:59 PM   #18
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Zeitgeist. Lol
Hmm. Good point. And Soma is named after the drug they take in Brave New World...

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 01:35 PM   #19
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Old 02-04-2023, 01:40 PM   #20
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I’d love to see the ratemyprofessor review for this. “He made the class listen to some creepy album that had an old lady croaking on every song”

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 02:12 PM   #21
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If you want them to think you have fucking awful taste in music, sure.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 02:58 PM   #22
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What type of person would be the appropriate recipient of ATUM?
A Latin major

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:08 PM   #23
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Yes please

And post their responses and reactions here

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 03:50 PM   #24
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Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 06:18 PM   #25
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As a concept album or dystopian story, ATUM is trash and does not tell a story. And that is the major problem with ATUM. On its own, it does not tell a story. All that BS context comes from Billy and his podcast, not the music itself. Find a better concept album where the album actually tells a story, not pretends to tell a story. You'd be better with Nine Inch Nails' Year Zero or Radiohead's Kid A. The lyrics, music, and art tell a story.

 
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Old 02-04-2023, 09:33 PM   #26
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6 months later:

"and this is why I and the board of governors have decided to have you barred from teaching ever again. Hand over your license and your firearm."

 
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Old 02-05-2023, 03:32 PM   #27
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After spending last night and this morning listening to the other albums I intend to use, I don't think I can, in good conscience, ******* ATUM alongside them. Sorry for those of you that were looking to get a laugh out of it.

The tougher question I'm dealing with now is in relation to Joe's Garage by Zappa. It's a great dystopian concept record, but... that album cover

 
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Old 02-05-2023, 04:16 PM   #28
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Why the fuck is the word in
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Is netphoria that much against being inclusive?

 
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Old 02-05-2023, 04:23 PM   #29
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Jesus Christ no please dont do this

 
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Is netphoria that much against being inclusive?
Yep, if you take the word Netphoria and spell it backwards it says 'Joe Rogan is your god'


How about this last minute suggestion btw? Amazing concept album, chock full o'bangers


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