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05-13-2022, 11:50 AM | #31 |
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Jesus Cambodia = James Cordene
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05-13-2022, 12:00 PM | #32 |
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It's so nice to see him out of those stupid dress/tunic things and that ridiculous makeup. He actually looks normal here.
I'm also getting worried about how much he's hyping this "triple album sequel to MCIS & M/TMOG" — setting the expectations VERY HIGH. |
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05-13-2022, 12:25 PM | #33 |
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He says with a big smile that he wrote the song when he was really depressed, and that he knew he was gonna see Corden, so he decided to play it. Clear implication: haha, seeing you makes me depressed, ya big lug. I think Billy's an asshole a lot of the time, but I genuinely don't see this as one of those times. Not the funniest joke, not told very well, but a very clear "trying to be a funny guest with an obviously joking put-down" moment all the same.
Or maybe it really does make him sad to see Corden, who is very well-known as an absolute monster offstage, in which case I must also give Billy a big pass here. |
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05-13-2022, 12:40 PM | #34 |
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05-13-2022, 12:46 PM | #35 |
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It looks like a Pisces-esque thing with two figures; I'm kind of seeing a red face in profile on each? And like a purple... shirt? Saddle? |
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05-13-2022, 03:52 PM | #36 |
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Jimmy is a fucking national treasure and makes everything 1000x better, he is a national treasure and should be protected at all costs. I mean all.
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05-13-2022, 08:08 PM | #37 |
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05-13-2022, 08:29 PM | #38 |
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Same here. Seems to me they’ve been working on becoming a band again, somehow, against all odds
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05-14-2022, 01:02 AM | #39 |
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Jack has a Larry David sticker on his guitar lmao
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05-14-2022, 02:34 AM | #40 |
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05-14-2022, 02:36 AM | #41 |
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That interview was painful because of Corden, not Billy. Lord all Corden’s interviews are just fluff.
I’m sure there will be a lot of this type of stuff in the next couple weeks. Gotta push early tickets. |
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05-14-2022, 03:13 AM | #42 | |
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the whole point of a rock show imo is serendipity. push the tempo, try a crazy fill and fuck it up, etc etc i know they're all good enough musicians [corgan's vocal cords aside] to recreate the recording perfectly. that shouldn't be the goal |
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05-14-2022, 04:01 AM | #43 | |
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Jeff's guitar sound is getting shittier by the hour, especially since getting that gargantuan endorsement from Yamaha/Line 6, and that 80s shredder persona he's trying to pull off these days (prolly another Yamaha PR stunt) |
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05-14-2022, 09:24 AM | #44 |
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05-14-2022, 09:26 AM | #45 | |
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Imo this is like the most tasteful version you can get of a classic act: recreate the sound most of the audience will be expecting for the radio hits, stretch and jam on the deeper cuts, wear a dress, do a couple weird jumps in your Alice cooper boots |
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05-14-2022, 01:26 PM | #46 | |
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I think the only band reunion that has ever felt like the real thing to me was Neutral Milk Hotel back in 2014. I was expecting to hear the songs I loved played by an older, distant version of the people who wrote them, but the shows were so heartfelt. Obviously you can't fake that, but it's incredible when you don't need to fake it. And if you're not feeling it, I agree this performance of Today is the way to go. I don't think Billy was wrong when he refused to be "stuck in the past". Play the old songs that feel relevant (they have so many, surely some still strike a chord), add a couple of appreciative tributes to the hits, and then just play the new stuff you're excited about. My main criticism of the band in the past 15 years has been that the new stuff is not very good, and at times even Billy seems to find it hard to be enthusiastic about it. |
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05-14-2022, 05:12 PM | #47 |
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05-14-2022, 07:31 PM | #48 |
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You really should have changed it on the little version as well, but I understand if you were in a hurry
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05-14-2022, 08:23 PM | #49 |
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TA-DAYYY ES DUH RATEST EYYY IVE EVER OWN
ANT ATE OR OOHMORROW I MIGH NOH AVE DAH LONN |
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05-14-2022, 09:22 PM | #50 |
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Corden is fucking insufferable. Also his audience (being prompted to) clapping and cheering during the song, cringe. Shut up.
I do like how Jimmy's entire kit is setup for this performance to play this song that doesn't require him to use barely of it. Also looks like his array of cymbals has gotten larger since the last tour, nice to see. |
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05-14-2022, 09:49 PM | #51 |
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i always wonder about that. must be annoying as hell for the crew
i know they did 1979 on some awards show and he just had snare/kick/HH/1 crash |
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05-14-2022, 10:26 PM | #52 | |
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05-15-2022, 04:00 AM | #53 | |
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You see that a lot on TV shows, there'll be a second guitar on a stand because there's always a second guitar on a stand. |
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05-15-2022, 05:56 AM | #54 | |
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He looks like an absolute fucking tool with that gigantic Mike Portnoy kit. Playing Today. Fucking lol. The pumpkins also recently hosted Michael Angelo batio onstage. Is any of this real? Is this the part of the realistic dream where it suddenly goes haywire and then we all wake up? I'm also getting strong vibes like he got his management to ask for tv closeups while playing, and to be addressed specifically during band interviews. I must say, that flexy drumset, along with that recent pic of him standing awfully puffy chested next to a Porsche, kind of sum up well what I've come to strongly dislike about him in recent years. People routinely rip on Corgan, but nobody ever mentions what a huge douche JC's evolved into. People forgot "burn the lies off the souls" is a jimmy quote! Up to 2000 he used to have this beautiful diamond in the rough quality about him, an extremely shy and humble personality, who's completely comfortable being in the background, but really excelling gloriously at that. That's also what made him such a phenomenal player, that it never seemed like he was forcing his prowess on the music, it's just what came naturally. Ppl may say I'm tripping or hatin' or whatever, but Zeitgeist was a turning point for him in that he first assumed the role of a co-bandleader and started demanding star billing status, a Ulrich/Hetfield-esque figure. Someone now responsible for steering the core vision of the band. Two more hands on the wheel, fighting for the reigns. His ego became huge. With his company being very successful\profitable, and SP becoming this source of revenue, and the way he's been playing (may be technically good as ever, he's a fantastic musician - but it's clear his heart is not in it), I can't help but feel that it's all become The Jimmy Chamberlin show to him, a rags to riches success story, phoenix from the ashes, etc. That alone normally wouldn't bother me at all, it's pretty textbook rockstar behavior, but the way he'd been flaunting this sort of enlightened and woke+blessed vibe, while never really having acknowledged his responsibility for the death of a person who would not be dead if not for him, rubs me the wrong way. Afaik he never talked publicly about it, never dealt with any of it, never offered any insight or apology for the consequences of his actions, all despite making a very conscious effort to increase his visibility nonetheless. Love his musicianship, but I can't respect that. |
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05-15-2022, 11:18 AM | #55 |
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05-15-2022, 02:17 PM | #56 |
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lol i agree with some of this. he seems a bit pompous lately - hippy stuff, stage demeanor, slow tempo so he can do arcane fills, etc
but during MCIS he had a similar size kit too. and he has mentioned the Melvoin thing in a few interviews - bit awkward to bring up very much doubt he asked to be cut to on TV |
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05-15-2022, 03:09 PM | #57 |
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Counterpoint: Jimmy is cool
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05-15-2022, 03:27 PM | #58 | |
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People have pointed out through the years that Jimmy, in many ways, is just as kooky with his weird spiritual beliefs/conspiracy theories and just as opportunistic and crass as Billy when it comes to money and exploiting the band's name. The difference is just that , unlike Billy, Jimmy does not seem to possess a compulsion to scream his thoughts to anyone that will put a microphone in his face, so by comparison to Corgan he seems like the person with complete integrity. I'd actually say that when it comes to "we're building a brand" type statements, Jimmy has been the worst offender. I think because of his relative quietness, people assume he's in it more "for the music," but various "in the know" type people have told me that two big factors for him leaving in 2009 were: (i) Billy refusing to let him have songwriting credit on songs like "United States" or "Superchrist" where his drumming essentially carried the song (even if he did not write the song in the literal sense of the word) and (ii) was pissed that Corgan went out of his way on the 20th Anniversary shows to play alienating shows that seemed to be made to grab bad headlines; apparently Jimmy was interested in (at least when they played bigger venues) doing a "greatest hits" type approach. The point being, monetary concerns do play a large part in his decisions. One other distinction I would make for Jimmy, that does seem to differentiate him from Billy, is that I've never heard of a fan encounter where Jimmy was anything other than polite and welcoming; again, unlike Corgan who can be cranky and sour in fan encounters. |
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05-15-2022, 04:11 PM | #59 |
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Maybe it's because i haven't read many SP interviews lately but when did Jimmy start talking, enough for us to know anything about his spiritual beliefs? He's a conspiracy theorist, what?
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05-15-2022, 04:12 PM | #60 |
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And what exactly is Jimmy supposed to do, cry about Melvoin in every interview for 25+ years? Would that be enough repentance for you guys?
Fucking weirdos |
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