Trent Reznor: Billy Sucks

Kahlo · 08-24-2007, 08:42 AM

Reznor told NME.COM:

Quote:

"I was never a big Smashing Pumpkins fan back when they were the Pumpkins, not to shit on Billy (Corgan) or anything but I don't hear anything that would make me want to care.

"I think trying to resurrect the name Smashing Pumpkins .........its all a bit corporate for me."

http://www.nme.com/news/nine-inch-nails/30619

Martyr · 08-24-2007, 08:47 AM

pity cause I thought they both owned at Pukkelpop.

??? · 08-24-2007, 08:48 AM

well of course trent would say that.

wounded · 08-24-2007, 08:48 AM

it's a valid opinion. i recognize that trent is talented, but i rarely rarely ever hear the guy do anything that makes me care. I thought year zero was horrible.

IWishIWasBlank · 08-24-2007, 08:48 AM

Well this ought to go eight pages or more.

Howdy Kahlo.

Kahlo · 08-24-2007, 08:53 AM

Hey.

Trent hasn't brought out anything interesting since The Fragile. He is just jealous that Courtney returns Billy's calls.

starlightvideoproductions · 08-24-2007, 08:53 AM

Trent's really done nothing that great since Broken. So he really doesn't have room to talk. The two newest records were just boring and him all buffed out looks weird.

Kahlo · 08-24-2007, 08:55 AM

Is this a competition?

Trent hasn't done anything interesting since 1989!! Infact neither has Billy. Bring back the Marked.

Heat6Jones · 08-24-2007, 08:55 AM

Screw Trent Reznor; I'm deleting his albums off my computer.

??? · 08-24-2007, 08:57 AM

i agree with trent about the revival being commercial, but he's only got the hump cause he can't write music quite as good or as interesting as billy's.

leena · 08-24-2007, 08:57 AM

Trent is short and chubby. Billy is tall and slim. I bet El Trent is just being jealous.

??? · 08-24-2007, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlo

Bring back the Marked.

Kahlo · 08-24-2007, 08:59 AM

He is sore because NIN had 7 years to make up the gap, and they are still only as good as an SP support band.

Kahlo · 08-24-2007, 09:00 AM

Also Trent is not chubby.

GlasgowKiss · 08-24-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wounded

it's a valid opinion.

This is going to be totally forgotten in this thread. Trent is all about heart on your sleeve lyricism. And billy is all about having so much poetic flourish that sometimes you wonder if thats all there is.

We've covered the corporate tinge to SP2 to death as well.

So try not to embarass yourselves noobs.

flyfire · 08-24-2007, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlo

Also Trent is not chubby.

nah not chubby but when i saw him a few months back i immediately thought of henry rollins

IWishIWasBlank · 08-24-2007, 09:12 AM

YOUR NUMBER IS ONE

ONE

ONE

THE ONLY ONE THAT NUMBER IS ONE!

IWishIWasBlank · 08-24-2007, 09:14 AM

By the way, fantastic avatar ???. I've been looking to buy that game for like eight years. I may have missed it more than the Pumpkins.

Of course, both went through their rough patches.

See: Adore
See also: FFVIII

tcm · 08-24-2007, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlo

Is this a competition?

isn't everything.

pale_princess · 08-24-2007, 09:46 AM

trent's point is spot-on.

skipgo · 08-24-2007, 10:09 AM

meh. i like both trent and billy, but don't put too much stock into either opinion. I have my own, which is all that really makes any difference to me. I'm sure bill will now retaliate with some immature jab at trent. reminds me of the old billy vs gavin days.

he's not chubby, but that trent is short... met him at a bar down in new orleans, wasn't much bigger than me (and i'm only 5' 3"). A nice enough fellow though. He lived a block away from a friend of mine, and my friend used to run into him at the local k&b fairly often, said he was top notch. I'm not too bothered by his opinion of SP, plenty of people I love dearly can't stand SP.

zbeast78 · 08-24-2007, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pale_princess

trent's point is spot-on.

i agree... but the best part about it is the things he's accusing corgan of fit him perfectly as well. he has a new band every album, so NIN is basically just a name with marketability... just like SP.

don't take this is me getting defensive for someone knocking corgan... cuz if you look back at my posts, i've done plenty of knockin on the dude. and this is also coming from someone who sided with Malkmus during their beef...

But did trent reznor really criticize someone else's music? are you kidding me?? i really find his dark wave/ synth goth to be utterly boring. there's a reason that respected music media outlets around the globe always scratch their heads when people bring up NIN. they suck.

tcm · 08-24-2007, 10:16 AM

Netphoria is the only respected music media outlet around the globe to which i subscribe.

skipgo · 08-24-2007, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcm

Netphoria is the only respected music media outlet around the globe to which i subscribe.

good one ted.

tcm · 08-24-2007, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skipgo

meh. i like both trent and billy, but don't put too much stock into either opinion. I have my own, which is all that really makes any difference to me. I'm sure bill will now retaliate with some immature jab at trent. reminds me of the old billy vs gavin days.

boys will be boys huh. although i recall mostly respectful things about Trent from Billy.

obligatory mention of Starcrf***ers, Inc. video.

topleybird · 08-24-2007, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbeast78

i really find his dark wave/ synth goth to be utterly boring.

I find your dark wave/synth goth to be utterly boring. So you don't get to have an opinion on music or anything else.

M.Night · 08-24-2007, 10:35 AM

to bad that NiN are crap

Clselby · 08-24-2007, 10:39 AM

He saying that bringing back the pumpkis is a bit corprate. Its no different than him bringing different musicians to play his music throughout his career. Billy and Jimmy are The Smashing Pumpkins. What a reject trent is...

tcm · 08-24-2007, 10:40 AM

GlasgowKiss · 08-24-2007, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clselby

He saying that bringing back the pumpkis is a bit corprate. Its no different than him bringing different musicians to play his music throughout his career. Billy and Jimmy are The Smashing Pumpkins. What a reject trent is...

It is different. How many times did billy say the smashing pumpkins are billy, jimmy, james and d'arcy? And how many times has trent said that NIN are a certain bunch of people?

Its ok you dont really have to count, just stop acting like an idiot.

08-24-2007, 08:48 AM	#5
IWishIWasBlank Apocalyptic Poster Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,404	Well this ought to go eight pages or more. Howdy Kahlo. __________________ Hi, my name is newb and I refuse to read threads, past or present, or even the post that came before mine. Would you kindly tell me who these "Smashing Pumpkins" are, what kind of music they play, where I could illegally download their CD's, how can I download all of their shows, where is yesterday's show, and where are the never-before-released hoarded for 15 years shows. And say... how come you guys are such assholes to new guys like me?

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08-24-2007, 08:47 AM	#2
Martyr m o n o c h r o m e Location: Dublin Posts: 2,341	pity cause I thought they both owned at Pukkelpop.

08-24-2007, 08:48 AM	#3
??? Minion of Satan Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯ Posts: 8,658	well of course trent would say that.

08-24-2007, 08:48 AM	#4
wounded Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,773	it's a valid opinion. i recognize that trent is talented, but i rarely rarely ever hear the guy do anything that makes me care. I thought year zero was horrible.

08-24-2007, 08:53 AM	#6
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Hey. Trent hasn't brought out anything interesting since The Fragile. He is just jealous that Courtney returns Billy's calls.

08-24-2007, 08:53 AM	#7
starlightvideoproductions Ownz Location: Honk Honk, Bitch!! Posts: 934	Trent's really done nothing that great since Broken. So he really doesn't have room to talk. The two newest records were just boring and him all buffed out looks weird.

08-24-2007, 08:55 AM	#8
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Is this a competition? Trent hasn't done anything interesting since 1989!! Infact neither has Billy. Bring back the Marked.

08-24-2007, 08:55 AM	#9
Heat6Jones Demi-God Location: North Carolina Posts: 335	Screw Trent Reznor; I'm deleting his albums off my computer.

08-24-2007, 08:57 AM	#10
??? Minion of Satan Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯ Posts: 8,658	i agree with trent about the revival being commercial, but he's only got the hump cause he can't write music quite as good or as interesting as billy's.

08-24-2007, 08:57 AM	#11
leena Demi-God Location: Brussels Posts: 340	Trent is short and chubby. Billy is tall and slim. I bet El Trent is just being jealous.

08-24-2007, 08:59 AM	#13
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	He is sore because NIN had 7 years to make up the gap, and they are still only as good as an SP support band.

08-24-2007, 09:00 AM	#14
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Also Trent is not chubby.

08-24-2007, 09:12 AM	#17
IWishIWasBlank Apocalyptic Poster Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,404	YOUR NUMBER IS ONE ONE ONE THE ONLY ONE THAT NUMBER IS ONE!

08-24-2007, 09:14 AM	#18
IWishIWasBlank Apocalyptic Poster Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,404	By the way, fantastic avatar ???. I've been looking to buy that game for like eight years. I may have missed it more than the Pumpkins. Of course, both went through their rough patches. See: Adore See also: FFVIII

08-24-2007, 09:46 AM	#20
pale_princess spanish harlem mona lisa Location: the barrio Posts: 10,070	trent's point is spot-on.

08-24-2007, 10:09 AM	#21
skipgo Minion of Satan Location: i'm a horrible human being Posts: 9,142	meh. i like both trent and billy, but don't put too much stock into either opinion. I have my own, which is all that really makes any difference to me. I'm sure bill will now retaliate with some immature jab at trent. reminds me of the old billy vs gavin days. he's not chubby, but that trent is short... met him at a bar down in new orleans, wasn't much bigger than me (and i'm only 5' 3"). A nice enough fellow though. He lived a block away from a friend of mine, and my friend used to run into him at the local k&b fairly often, said he was top notch. I'm not too bothered by his opinion of SP, plenty of people I love dearly can't stand SP.

08-24-2007, 10:16 AM	#23
tcm Braindead Location: Le look de Corgan Posts: 17,921	Netphoria is the only respected music media outlet around the globe to which i subscribe.

08-24-2007, 10:35 AM	#27
M.Night Ownz Posts: 772	to bad that NiN are crap

08-24-2007, 10:39 AM	#28
Clselby Pledge Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 121	He saying that bringing back the pumpkis is a bit corprate. Its no different than him bringing different musicians to play his music throughout his career. Billy and Jimmy are The Smashing Pumpkins. What a reject trent is...

08-24-2007, 10:40 AM	#29
tcm Braindead Location: Le look de Corgan Posts: 17,921