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Old 10-10-2006, 10:13 PM   #1
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Ok first off I have been around here for a while (just reading threads) but I never post anything . I should probably leave it
that way because I know I am going to get flamed for this but...

On a whim I wiki'ed the number 13 for the obvious reference to it in the SP flag logo and here is what I came up with.
(Zodiac and Judias stuff was also wiki'ed as I found relations)

13 stars and strips on the Smashing Pumpkins flag
13 stars
7 black strips
6 white strips

Follow the numbers!

The number of participants at the Last Supper was 13
Counting both Judas and Matthias, there were 13 apostles
Judas's last name was Iscariot
Matthias was the Apostle chosen by the remaining eleven apostles to replace Judas

The Smashing Pumpkins formed in 1988
They broke up in 2000 which was 12 years later
There are 12 Zodiac constellation
Pisces is the twelfth and last sign of the Zodiac (the end)
As we know the Pisces Iscariot music notes has references to 2007
Pisces Iscariot was released in 1994 13 years later would be 2007
Pisces Iscariot was also released 7 years after the formation of the band
So after pisces (12 (the end)) would be the start (new beginning) of the zodiac (1)
The Smashing Pumpkins will be beginning again
However it is not a completely new beginning (12 + 1 = 13)

So in conclusion the original Smashing Pumpkins were together for 12 years.
Pisces Iscariot was released 7 years after the formation of the band and gave us clues to this renunion
13 years later a new beginning. Since Pisces is currently from March 15 to April 13 expect a release date then?

I have no idea what the 6 white stripes might stand for. June maybe? For the month of the reunion announcement in
2005 as a reference to June from the lyrics?

What do you think.

Does this support the pumpkins conspiracy theory?

btw: if someone already posted any of this information I didnt relize it and I am sorry.

1st post!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!1111!!!!!111!!!1

 
Old 10-10-2006, 10:15 PM   #2
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does anyone think it's a coincidence that the flag of the united states of america also has thirteen stripes

 
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:15 PM   #3
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What do you think.
I think this should be your first and only post.

 
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:31 PM   #4
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Founding states, you American morons! Don't even know your own history.

 
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:54 PM   #5
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Founding states, you American morons! Don't even know your own history.
omg its bolly!11

The number 13 is second only to the number 6 in the amount of conspiracies that have been based upon it.

 
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:08 PM   #6
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_flag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_flag_13_stars.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._stars.svg.png

US Flag with 13 stars. In use 14 June 1777–1 May 1795.

Learn fucking history.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 03:04 AM   #7
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Congratulations! You just cracked the Machina mystery!

You see, in 1777, Billy's great great great great great great great great grandfather came up with that flag in anticipation of the Machina mystery. You see 2007-1777=230, which, if you subtract the one hundred years that Billy laid dormant in his secret vampire lair in Chicago, equals 130, divided by 10 (which is the number of pumpkins albums if you count the new one) equals thirteen, which is the number of stripes Billy's great great great great great great great great grandfather put on the flag (and also the number of stars he put on the flag, just for emphasis.) Now, if you take into account the thirteenth Zodiac sign, Ophiucus, we can triangulate the date to be sometime in the year 2007, which according to the chinese zodiac is the year of the Pig. Since Billy's nose turns up slightly (in a pig-like manner) I take this as definite proof that the album will be released next year.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 07:25 AM   #8
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He's flyinggggggg!!! he's flyyyyyyyyying!!!!

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:29 AM   #9
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What do you think.
You should get a life

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:58 AM   #10
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what if they decided to add one stripe instead of one star for every new state acquired.

i think that's a much better idea.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:15 PM   #11
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This thread makes me laugh. I can't believe out of all the shit posted above the 13 colonies were not mentioned.

Hey there 13 tracks on Siamese Dream too.

Theres a song called luck 13 as well.

I have 13 cents in my pocket.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:20 PM   #12
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29 - 17 = 13

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:24 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Anvil Hands
This thread makes me laugh. I can't believe out of all the shit posted above the 13 colonies were not mentioned.

Hey there 13 tracks on Siamese Dream too.

Theres a song called luck 13 as well.

I have 13 cents in my pocket.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
What I love is tha tpeople run and look up the number 13, not the history of the american flag.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:38 PM   #14
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by learn history, you mean look up shit on wiki?
Well, it's the modern day equivalent of grabbing out the ol' World Book Encyclopaedia and reading, isn't it?

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:45 PM   #15
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What I love is tha tpeople run and look up the number 13, not the history of the american flag.
Yup !

Seriously i don't think that flag means jack. I think that maybee Corgan thought we got bored of staring at the same thing everyday and decided to change the site just to stir the pot.

It obviously worked since some people are dropping a load in their pants about it. It's not actuall news it's a friggn flag.

OMG ! in Geek usa Billy says he loves the USA ! OMG !

Last edited by Anvil Hands : 10-11-2006 at 12:53 PM.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:50 PM   #16
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Since Pisces is currently from March 15 to April 13 expect a release date then?

Pisces is not 3/15-4/13 !


Pisces is feb 20 - march 20

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:30 PM   #17
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no its not.
Why not?

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:39 PM   #18
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Why not?
Its pretty much the same except for the whole "everything you're reading could have been just totally made up by someone with way too much time on his hands" part. Reading the World Book never had that kind of drama to it.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:46 PM   #19
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I prefer to read my encyclopedia set from the mid 1980's. Funk and Wagnals.

My grandmother got a new volume every month at the grocery store until she got the whole thing.

Of course the rich kids all had Encyclopedia Britanica.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:48 PM   #20
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Its pretty much the same except for the whole "everything you're reading could have been just totally made up by someone with way too much time on his hands" part. Reading the World Book never had that kind of drama to it.
That mostly happens with biographies on wiki. I'vew read stories talking about when you compare wikipedia to world book, they both have pretty much the same amount of errors. I think the numbers were something like world 4 errors per article, wiki 5 errors.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:52 PM   #21
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http://www.nature.com/news/2005/0512...l/438900a.html

However, an expert-led investigation carried out by Nature — the first to use peer review to compare Wikipedia and Britannica's coverage of science — suggests that such high-profile examples are the exception rather than the rule.

The exercise revealed numerous errors in both encyclopaedias, but among 42 entries tested, the difference in accuracy was not particularly great: the average science entry in Wikipedia contained around four inaccuracies; Britannica, about three.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:57 PM   #22
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OR MABY BILLY JUST WANT US TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO UNTIL THE ALBUM IS RELEASED SO EVERYBODY SPEND LESS TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW LONG TIME IT TAKES.

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:59 PM   #23
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Bullshit

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 07:31 PM   #24
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29 - 17 = 13

uhhhh...what?

tbyw

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 07:36 PM   #25
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YHBT HAND!!!!!!!!!!!1 :cry: :cry: :erm: :smoke: :rofl: :banging: ;) :D :p :cry: :p :erm: :confused: :embarass: :smoke: :banging:

 
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Old 10-11-2006, 08:09 PM   #26
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The Bolly angel descended into my bedroom at military time 13:13 and told me:

6 whites stripes=month
13 stars=day
7 black stripes=year

giving us a release date of...

6/13/07... which is a wednesday, but fuck... it's more likely than the judas theory.

I am willing to bet that billy will not be able to resist leaking something or making contact on FRIDAY THE 13th! 10/13/06.

(That's when i'm expecting visit #2 from the Bolly angel, i'll keep you all informed.)

Also note: Billy's Birthday is March 17th... he is a Pisces... eh?



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Old 10-12-2006, 09:35 AM   #27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reepsmac
Ok first off I have been around here for a while (just reading threads) but I never post anything . I should probably leave it
that way because I know I am going to get flamed for this but...

On a whim I wiki'ed the number 13 for the obvious reference to it in the SP flag logo and here is what I came up with.
(Zodiac and Judias stuff was also wiki'ed as I found relations)

13 stars and strips on the Smashing Pumpkins flag
13 stars
7 black strips
6 white strips

Follow the numbers!

The number of participants at the Last Supper was 13
Counting both Judas and Matthias, there were 13 apostles
Judas's last name was Iscariot
Matthias was the Apostle chosen by the remaining eleven apostles to replace Judas

The Smashing Pumpkins formed in 1988
They broke up in 2000 which was 12 years later
There are 12 Zodiac constellation
Pisces is the twelfth and last sign of the Zodiac (the end)
As we know the Pisces Iscariot music notes has references to 2007
Pisces Iscariot was released in 1994 13 years later would be 2007
Pisces Iscariot was also released 7 years after the formation of the band
So after pisces (12 (the end)) would be the start (new beginning) of the zodiac (1)
The Smashing Pumpkins will be beginning again
However it is not a completely new beginning (12 + 1 = 13)

So in conclusion the original Smashing Pumpkins were together for 12 years.
Pisces Iscariot was released 7 years after the formation of the band and gave us clues to this renunion
13 years later a new beginning. Since Pisces is currently from March 15 to April 13 expect a release date then?

I have no idea what the 6 white stripes might stand for. June maybe? For the month of the reunion announcement in
2005 as a reference to June from the lyrics?

What do you think.

Does this support the pumpkins conspiracy theory?

btw: if someone already posted any of this information I didnt relize it and I am sorry.

1st post!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!1111!!!!!111!!!1
This reads like something from Toolnavy.com

 
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:47 AM   #28
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Quote:
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does anyone think it's a coincidence that the flag of the united states of america also has thirteen stripes
there are no coincidences
only very, very elaborate schemes concucted by billy corgan of the smashing pumpkins.

 
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