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Old 09-16-2021, 09:30 AM   #1
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Talking Welcome Sad Machines fans

In today's Instagram video, BC distanced himself from a previously positive fan group he had supported which has now apparently gone bitter.
Too much complaining about the price of things and trying to fleece fans etc.

Anyway - a lukewarm welcome to you all

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Old 09-16-2021, 09:51 AM   #2
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The circle is complete.

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 09:57 AM   #3
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I wonder if they're having a huge "come to Jesus" discussion where they reevaluate their attitudes and promise to do better/renew their faith, and they kick out people who continue to raise even the mildest objection

To those objectors: Welcome! It's not too late for you, and also this is the last time anyone here will treat you with a modicum of kindness

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:45 AM   #4
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Old 09-16-2021, 11:13 AM   #5
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Get in here and complain about some shirts we don’t fucken mind plus if u stick around and wanna get weird we can tell you all about our dads

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 12:26 PM   #6
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The every other Tuesday orgy is next week. Meet us in the alley behind Zuzus for some sucking and (oh you know)

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 12:54 PM   #7
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In today's Instagram video, BC distanced himself from a previously positive fan group he had supported which has now apparently gone bitter.
Too much complaining about the price of things and trying to fleece fans etc.

Anyway - a lukewarm welcome to you all

x x
His "sorrow is the family business" schtick lasted a week? He had shirts, a trucker hat ($35), a hoodie, and a few other nonsense items for sale. Went to Zuzus.com today and 404 error for the "sorrow items". Oh, and a fucking SP candybar.

This is a dumb concept that no fan can relate to and he complains that his cult isn't doing enough and discards them. Typical BC move.

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 12:56 PM   #8
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But yeah, welcome SMs. Looking forward to your inner circle confessions now that you're on the outside and can start to face reality.

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 01:20 PM   #9
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sustainable business model

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 01:43 PM   #10
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Sad Machines are some of the worst, most insecure and bullying fans in the entire SP community. They've been having issues for too long. Getting into political arguments with the likes of sierra swan, linda strawberry, etc etc.. basically mansplaining to them and I think that finally got back to Billy and he's realized that groups are just a toxic environment for fans to speak and communicate. He has a long history of turning his back on these groups for that reason.. he said as much in that video (oboard, hipsters united) etc etc. so it's not just about prices, merch, archive prices, etc. I get a sense said fans grew entitled due to their perceived closeness to Billy, bullying other fans at concerts who they felt didn't deserve to be closer to the stage, etc etc.

Fuck em all to hell. They deserve a spanking.

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:49 PM   #11
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They will probably ban anyone that complains about the price. After that they will buy 5 of each item to please Billy.

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:51 PM   #12
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Billy should release the same item in 7 different colours to make people buy the same thing more than once.


Oh, wait

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:47 PM   #13
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Billy should release the same item in 7 different colours to make people buy the same thing more than once.


Oh, wait
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Old 09-16-2021, 05:32 PM   #14
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See he is looking to drive everyone on here for the album announcement.

 
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Old 09-16-2021, 06:21 PM   #15
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I just hope they're proud of themselves. proud of themselves for dedicating 5-6 years of their life creating an SP community where people can speak with one another about their favorite band, get along with one another, foster a positive environment without getting negative in the process, and then completely failing at it.

What a dumb fucking thing for adults to try and succeed at and then fail. LOL.

I like Bill's stance on it. "If you don't want to buy it, don't buy it." Pretty straight forward.

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 01:05 AM   #16
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On a long enough timeline, every Smashing Pumpkins fan becomes a Netphorian.

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 05:51 AM   #17
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I like Bill's stance on it. "If you don't want to buy it, don't buy it." Pretty straight forward.
well, of course, but that's always true.
we don't need billy's infinite wisdom for that.

it shouldn't mean that nobody is allowed to say "$70 for a record? wtf!"
that's not bitter, or whatever he called it. i think that's just a very normal reaction.

i have to admit i do not know what was actually said by this group of very positive fans... but what could it have been?

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 06:54 AM   #18
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I would hazard a wild guess it's behind the scenes "super-fan" BS again. More than just a handful of the 650 members grumbling that they couldn't buy the archives on a CD. And/or they couldn't afford thre zuzus photos at $650 a pop, after shelling out $2,200 for the Cotillions satues or such like

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Old 09-17-2021, 07:20 AM   #19
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Which would all be quite reasonable

Sometime I feel a bit sorry for the all-in type fans you see on Instagram - the ones who have built up a big archive of stuff from the band who probably feel like they need to spend all their money on what's being offered

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 07:57 AM   #20
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Can't say too much because of NDAs and cash rewards but he shared preliminary plans for something (that's a little more "essential" than photos, tracksuits etc) with a group of true hardcorefans and was told to fuck off.

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:02 AM   #21
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Did he try to sell you Jeff?

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:11 AM   #22
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Did he try to sell you Jeff?
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:19 AM   #23
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heh yeah they're utilising Jimmy ___ Chamberlains expertise in leveraging synergies to launch an SP cameo.com type service where you can pay $2,000 for a 1 minute personalised message from Jeff

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 09:21 AM   #24
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I watched the IG stream and it seems like the issue was merch prices. That's when he goes into the SP IS A BUSINESS thing.

At the end he says he's "turned the page" on the mysterious unnamed group, SadMachines.

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 10:12 AM   #25
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The Joliet Mustard / The Invincible ... ?

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 12:25 PM   #27
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Jimmy "it really hurt my feelings when you cut your hair, just as mine was getting long" Chamberlin

 
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Old 09-17-2021, 12:39 PM   #28
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is this like the time WPC spoke to TOC thru rush lyrics???


 
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Old 09-18-2021, 12:48 AM   #29
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Netphoria wins!

 
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Old 09-18-2021, 12:50 AM   #30
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In other news... people with purple hair don't like paying for stuff. iT sHoUld Be fReE

 
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