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View Poll Results: MTAE or CYR
MTAE 9 34.62%
CYR 17 65.38%
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:27 AM   #1
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Default MTAE vs CYR

Since apparently Oceania is the new favorite, just curious which of these two lovelies is more enjoyable for you

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 04:57 AM   #2
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Cyr for me. MTAE has got some GREAT songs and is kinda an "All killer no filler" thing but I prefer Cyrs vibe and direction.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 05:11 AM   #3
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Can there be a third option?

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 05:15 AM   #4
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Can there be a third option?
You can't choose both

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 05:33 AM   #5
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Well, MTAE's got a couple of undisputed bangers so there's that.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 06:57 AM   #6
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MTAE has 1 good song - Drum 'N Fife

whereas Cyr has 0 good songs

therefore MTAE wins

Oceania has about 4 good songs, for comparison

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 06:59 AM   #7
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I prefer the songs on MTAE, but it sounds so terrible, so metallic and sharp and brickwalled, that I can't physically listen to it.

Cyr SOUNDS better, but the songs aren't that good and there's too many of them. Saying that, I'd rather now listen to Purple Blood or one of those ones, rather than, say, Dorian or Tiberius. Even though I may prefer the latter songs.

So, does that mean I have to pick Cyr?

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 07:28 AM   #8
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there are 2 or 3 on MTAE that I don't think I ever need to listen to again, but even with the remaining 6 it demolishes Seer

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 07:29 AM   #9
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I have a high school diploma & College Experience so please do not attempt to disagree with me

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 07:45 AM   #10
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MTAE has 1 good song - Drum 'N Fife

whereas Cyr has 0 good songs

therefore MTAE wins

Oceania has about 4 good songs, for comparison
Cyr has Anno Satana, Purple Blood, Save Your Tears, Birch Grove, Wrath, Haunted, Hidden Sun, Schaudenfreud, Minerva.

These tracks are better than practically everything on Oceania and MTAE.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 08:04 AM   #11
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MTAE actually has the instrumentation i signed up for as an SP fan

yes i know that's a trite reason do not care

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 08:07 AM   #12
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would you rather masturbate with a cheese grater or an apple peeler

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 08:25 AM   #13
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would you rather masturbate with a cheese grater or an apple peeler
Exactly just why?

Btw have you ever tried granny's hands? Granny as in old woman not your actual granny ffs, good lawd...

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 08:50 AM   #14
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why not both

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 09:33 AM   #15
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MTAE sounds like an SP album, just not a good one.
Cyr sounds like a BC solo album, just not a good one.

MTAE has an actual drummer ripping on it.
Cyr has programmed drum machine beats.

MTAE has 1x Run2Me
Cyr has 20x Run2Mes

MTAE has Tiberius.
Cyr has nothing.

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Old 10-17-2022, 09:57 AM   #16
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For me it comes down to Dorian vs The Color of Love. Yes, those are only 2 songs I like between both albums.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:37 PM   #17
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Monuments decimates Cyr. Can’t believe these votes. It actually has guitar, good drums, and the best set of songs he’d written in years.

Certified Bangers -
Tiberius, One and All, Monuments, Dorian

Pretty good - Drum + Fife, Anaise, Anti-Hero

Just Ok - Being Beige, Run2Me

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:48 PM   #18
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any album with Run2Me is an instant looser.

imagine MCIS with Run2Me. OMG puke. throw both disks in the trash and burn it OneFatSlug style.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:16 PM   #19
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CYR has a better vocal performance and cooler words - it's also a mix and match, make your own album deal. i'm a fan but not of all 20 songs.

MtaE is the more considered record track order wise, but it's got some questionable, weak vocals (i can't unhear a bum note in run 2 me) - but the dynamic is cool and it's a nice compliment to Oceania. it has a vaguely 1996 bside aesthetic

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:17 PM   #20
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hey, but it didn't because that was fucking 1995 and we are rolling a different pair of dice w/ the modern-day pumpkins, a pair of dice that occasionally lands on Tiberius but also occasionally lands on holy SHIT the ultimate bathroom-break concert song

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:20 PM   #21
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run2me is the worst thing he'd written since widow.. so it loses out for that reason alone. drum and fife is total rock cheese.

Cyr is frustrating but I can pull a good EP out of it. Save Your Tears is better than anything on MTAE except for one and all.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:47 PM   #22
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One and All
We yum, we yum

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:48 PM   #23
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I'd like the song more (nah) if I wasn't hearing that every time

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:51 PM   #24
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I actually really like his guitar tones on Monuments. Definitely better than Oceania’s.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 02:08 PM   #25
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The only song I like on Oash is The Celestials. So far it's 1-1-1 for me. Maybe after ATUM is complete I'll have an EP.

I will say Inkless has a nice guitar sound, but I don't find the song to have any impact.

I guess this thread was inspired due to all the praise Oceania has been getting here recently. It's fairly easy to compare Oceania and MTAE, and the board favorite is clear. But comparing the supposed "loser" of the two with CYR seems more divisive.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 02:12 PM   #26
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The think Monuments vs Shiny is probably a more direct comparison. Both are really short albums and Shiny sounds like leftovers from Monuments.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 02:23 PM   #27
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I guess this thread was inspired due to all the praise Oceania has been getting here recently.
yes, this board is full of "remember the golden age of SP, back during teargarden and Oach. that DVD of the live show was an instant classic, I bought it in all the avaliable formats."
yes. yes . yes yes.

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 02:41 PM   #28
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The think Monuments vs Shiny is probably a more direct comparison. Both are really short albums and Shiny sounds like leftovers from Monuments.
Oh, I didn't mean MTAE and CYR sound alike. More like, Oceania and MTAE sound enough alike and people seem to prefer Oash. Since CYR sounds so different, which disappointing album direction do you prefer, the less favored, lyrically dead guitar based album, or the sleepy techno nightmare?

 
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Old 10-17-2022, 03:06 PM   #29
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what about shiny?



best of both?

 
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my opinion on Shiny is essentially the same as what I said for Monuments above, but inversed

 
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