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09-21-2022, 03:04 PM | #31 | |
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Feel lucky that it's bringing me some of that old joy. Sorry that it isn't hitting the spot for others. But some people like stuff on Oceania and Adore that I don't really like... I guess I used to begrudge that, so I get what people are feeling to a point. What i don't understand is the arguments about not hearing what Jimmy and James are bringing to the table here. Sure I can entertain that argument to a degree with CYR, but on this this so far. Nope. Not having that. This isn't the same argument as saying you don't like the song, or the song is boring or the song is shit. We have comparators in Adore, Oceania, Teargarden, Monuments - and if you can't hear Jimmy in Atum, I don't think you ever really understood what he was bringing that made his approach so distinctive in the first place - from my perspective, at least. Other drummers, Ram, I would welcome your thoughts. What he's bringing here in these first 4 tracks we have heard, can initially seem different, more restrained, polished and conservative in parts - in comparison to some of his other stuff in SP. But not all of his stuff. Anyway. Sorry not sorry. x Last edited by jimmy drevpile : 09-21-2022 at 03:26 PM. |
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09-21-2022, 04:18 PM | #32 |
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It kind sounds like As Rome Burns... Showed down.
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09-21-2022, 04:24 PM | #33 |
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but Empires might be better on album. Definitely sounded like Billy was struggling, so the vocal melodies might be more noticeable.
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09-21-2022, 05:11 PM | #34 |
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mix wasn't the best either
the live drums might make up for it though. always so dry in studio |
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09-21-2022, 05:18 PM | #35 | |
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You are too true/pure for this sewer of a board. Enjoy away! |
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09-21-2022, 05:26 PM | #36 |
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Again, I don't hate it, but it's just so uninspired. It'll be butchered in the studio too, another Seek/Marchin'/Solara churned out rock riff that would've been a cool 8 second snippet on Pastichio Medley.
It's passable yes, but so are kidney stones. |
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09-21-2022, 05:49 PM | #37 | |
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Jimmy didn’t play on any of those records and James apparently recorded something on Adore, that’s it. But this is exactly the point, they’re back but WPC has decided Logic is the way cool (read young) people make music these days. And therefore they’ve turned into NIN live band members. |
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09-21-2022, 06:14 PM | #38 |
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Are we acting like Jimmy’s drums weren’t buried as hell and didn’t also sound like shit production-wise on MCIS? For having one of the best drummers ever in the band, SP has always had some of the worst drum production of any of the 90’s bands hands down.
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09-21-2022, 06:16 PM | #39 | |
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i fucking love how the drums sound on mellon collie, sorry haters |
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09-21-2022, 06:16 PM | #40 |
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the drums on the new album sound like garageband midi presets
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09-21-2022, 10:29 PM | #41 | |
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09-22-2022, 03:18 AM | #42 |
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09-22-2022, 09:02 AM | #43 |
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This is decent, but there's something wrong with the drumming
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09-22-2022, 09:04 AM | #44 |
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Hard agree, this is my first impression, too. Sounds like the same guitar sound on Quasar. I guess people think Oceania is classic Pumpkins now.
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09-22-2022, 09:07 AM | #45 |
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In a way it has become classic Pumpkins
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09-22-2022, 11:16 AM | #46 | |
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09-22-2022, 12:22 PM | #47 |
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this MCIS discourse made me realize: i don't care anymore
the albums can sounds like whatever - what i truly end up listening to is live boots - SP shines live. |
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09-23-2022, 10:29 AM | #48 |
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A better version, from last night
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09-23-2022, 10:34 PM | #49 |
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Ok this sounds much better than the first post. Jimmy’s drums especially sound better.
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09-24-2022, 01:20 AM | #50 |
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I hear a little Silverfuck in those drums now
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09-24-2022, 01:23 AM | #51 |
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09-24-2022, 01:27 AM | #52 |
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09-24-2022, 01:54 AM | #53 |
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09-24-2022, 02:03 AM | #54 |
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Corgan doesn’t really believe in choruses any more, does he?
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09-24-2022, 02:04 AM | #55 |
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09-24-2022, 03:10 AM | #56 |
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09-24-2022, 08:36 AM | #57 |
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09-24-2022, 08:57 AM | #58 |
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I think that's why it reminds me of As Rome Burns. It's called Empires, and ARB lyrics are "We are the new Gods / Same as the old Gods".
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09-24-2022, 09:44 AM | #59 |
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it's also the closest he's gotten to aping the vibe of the Cherub Rock riff [tone: good]
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09-24-2022, 12:10 PM | #60 |
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i like the jeff guitar part at 2.20
but i wouldnt the solo at the end on the record |
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