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Old 06-20-2022, 03:54 PM   #31
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you paid for these turds? ewwwww

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 05:04 PM   #32
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It would have been really interesting with the original lineup, but I really find it hard to get past the mantra stuff at the start and vocals in general.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 05:08 PM   #33
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it's too meh to even spell that out

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Old 06-20-2022, 05:34 PM   #34
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During the launch of the album Bill invited a bunch of fans to Chicago to listen to the album on a charter boat in the harbor.

Here's 6 minutes of Bill at that event being egotistical while talking at @SPpictures about getting content for her website. Not too long after this Bill's lawyers threatened her and she had to shut down the online picture archive.

Oceania kind of started out interesting, and like everything Bill's done this century it ended with Bill firing everyone, lashing out at fans, and threatening to beat up queer women on Twitter



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Old 06-20-2022, 05:39 PM   #35
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SP did a tour in 2011, 6 months or so prior to the launch of Oceania, and they played a LOT of old material along with about half the songs that ended up on the Oceania album. That tour in 2011 was way better than the disaster video globe tour in 2012.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 05:50 PM   #36
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the "entertainment dollar" is a metaphor, & it is much bigger than you & me

the entertainment between us is like electricity, tits & tats

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Old 06-20-2022, 05:59 PM   #37
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I've tried several times to listen to this album. It just feels empty. Maybe not as empty as MTAE or Teargarden, but it's just lacking that edge that the earlier albums had. It's the perfect example of "phoning it in". Feels passionless and forced.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 06:03 PM   #38
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When it came out i was mildly relieved that it didn’t abrade/chafe my tight lil earholes like the aggressive, unlubricated zeitgiest

Today i cannot remember a single thing about it except the riff on inkless which i maintain is a pretty good riff

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 06:12 PM   #39
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i'm talkin' Tommy Lee on the kit

big guitars, unapologetic synths, ANUS

put on Monuments you at least get a morsel of entertainment 4 your dollar
Yeah tbh i would rather check out MTAE again. Dorian is fucking pretty almost kinda good?

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:03 PM   #40
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I cannot speak of the unbearable love and beauty that lives inside this tower which was built for venting sewer gas


 
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:25 PM   #41
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I'd love a remix where it's not making my ears bleed with loud compressed nonsense, and where Billy's vocals are positioned better in the mix. Not a terrible album.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 09:25 PM   #42
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the unbearable love and beauty inside the North Shore Sanitary District Tower

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_...District_Tower

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The North Shore Sanitary District Tower is located in Highland Park, Illinois. It was built in 1931 to provide ventilation for the local sewer system. The brick tower is 50 feet (15 m) tall and topped by a spire. The tower features Art Deco elements, including the spire and its stone door trim and windowsills; the application of a formal architectural style is unusual in a purely functional building. It was added to the National Register of Historic Places on June 30, 1983.

The tower is featured on the cover of the album Oceania by The Smashing Pumpkins.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 10:02 PM   #43
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I can't imagine actively choosing to listen to this with everything else at your disposal, Pumpkins or otherwise
THIS!!!!!!
its sickening me how people are defending it or even going so far as to call it "good"

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 10:09 PM   #44
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Two facts:

Inkless is the best song on Oceania, by far.

MTaE is the better album of the two.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 10:15 PM   #45
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Sometimes you have an urge to listen to late period albums by bands you enjoy because you've played their best sfuff to death and you need something else.

It's alright. Bill's done way better and way worse. Its worst crime is being offensively average.

I'd much rather listen to it than fucking Monuments at any rate.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 10:45 PM   #46
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I completely forgot about this album. The 10-year anniversary t-shirt is cool enough to almost buy.

Agreed with some of the other posts that Quasar is unlistenable garbage. It tries to be a hard rocker but its much better alternative is the second track, Panopticon, which actually has a melody.

"The Celestials" feels right at home...on Zeitgeist. I legitimately enjoy My Love is Winter.. (I'm totally fine rocking along with "my love love is lost / my love is winter") From there on out, the album descends in terms of songs I connect to, until we finally reach Inkless.

It's (one of the?) last albums where Billy's lyrics aren't completely inscrutable Victorian-era word salads. One and a half thumbs up.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 10:55 PM   #47
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this is the only Corgan album after TFE that I can tolerate listening to. And that's only if I skip a few tracks.

 
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Old 06-20-2022, 11:01 PM   #48
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Gold Chain Jeff's other band is better than the current SP


 
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Old 06-21-2022, 12:11 AM   #49
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Two facts:

Inkless is the best song on Oceania, by far.

MTaE is the better album of the two.
This is correct

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 12:11 AM   #50
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Gold Chain Jeff's other band is better than the current SP

Also correct

Hoping Jeff gets fired for going to one too many Zoom practices for this project (is it even still active?) so he can fly free

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 12:16 AM   #51
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fly free, jeff


 
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:49 AM   #52
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It's (one of the?) last albums where Billy's lyrics aren't completely inscrutable Victorian-era word salads. One and a half thumbs up.
MTAE is the peak of WPC “straightforward” lyrics, including the gem :

Never been kissed by a girl like you
Ooh ooh scooby doo

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 05:28 AM   #53
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Yeah it's a good album.

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 05:59 AM   #54
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I listened to Inkless for the first time because of this thread

It's fucking terrible

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 09:59 AM   #55
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I remember thinking the first two songs felt like SP were trying to return to their early 90s sound (and then also being surprised by how derivative these sounds sounded), and then the rest of the album sort of sputtering along with what sounded like weaker versions of MSOFTS's weaker tracks. Album goes on too long. I remember being confused by why the Celestials and Pale Horse were promoted or discussed like they were singles because they didn't leave much of an impact. I can't even remember what they sounded like. Was one of the them one of the opening tracks? This thread can't inspire me to listen to any of these again, sorry.

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:22 AM   #56
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I remember thinking the first two songs felt like SP were trying to return to their early 90s sound (and then also being surprised by how derivative these sounds sounded), and then the rest of the album sort of sputtering along with what sounded like weaker versions of MSOFTS's weaker tracks. Album goes on too long. I remember being confused by why the Celestials and Pale Horse were promoted or discussed like they were singles because they didn't leave much of an impact. I can't even remember what they sounded like. Was one of the them one of the opening tracks? This thread can't inspire me to listen to any of these again, sorry.
save yourself the trouble.

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:39 AM   #57
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I remember being confused by why the Celestials and Pale Horse were promoted or discussed like they were singles because they didn't leave much of an impact.
Remember Billy sort of promoting Pale Horse in those YT videos like stompland and my axes, and then it came out and it was...very average.

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:51 AM   #58
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HA!

 
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Old 06-21-2022, 11:02 AM   #59
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HA!
This and the cruise were peak Monte.

 
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peak monte was the worst of anything. It really symbolized the lameness of SP...

 
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