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Old 03-15-2023, 11:10 AM   #61
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parts of Oceania are basically SD2. An SP5 SD2 would just be a bunch of Cherub Rock soundalikes, with some chugging thrown in

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 12:05 PM   #62
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Isn't the format of the podcast supposed to be, essentially, "play a new song, talk with a guest, play a classic song and talk about it"? Is he even doing that last part any more? I don't think I've seen anyone post some interesting new fact we learned about an old song ó there's just zip in terms of cool stories, on any of them?

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 12:17 PM   #63
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Isn't the format of the podcast supposed to be, essentially, "play a new song, talk with a guest, play a classic song and talk about it"? Is he even doing that last part any more? I don't think I've seen anyone post some interesting new fact we learned about an old song ó there's just zip in terms of cool stories, on any of them?
You're living in the past. Why don't you pay him a million dollars? He may then record a podcast in the style of the old podcasts.

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Old 03-15-2023, 12:21 PM   #64
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Not sure how we went from ďyíall are dumb cause you didnít listen to every second of every podcast like me and donít understand Billyís dumb conceptĒ to SP fans are creepy sex abusers. But ok, if you need another soapbox to display how youíre the most tolerant and enlightened person here do go on.
Firm but fair, sir.

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 01:32 PM   #65
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Billy Corgan is gonna plug the SD 30th anniversary plans like he didn't spend several months trashing the album

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 01:36 PM   #66
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Return The Faith!

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 06:25 PM   #67
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Few years ago I asked Billy if there would ever been another Siamese Dream box with more stuff and he gave some super snarky reply about it. Well, maybe don't give us such a hodge podge collection of outtakes then my dude? It'll be interesting to see if there will be another 30th box released. Doubt it though.

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 07:00 PM   #68
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i know ive made this complaint a lot, but i really wish billy would let stuff breathe. that breakdown chorus would have been pretty cool to just hear the noodling guitars riffing on top of each other instead of him saying alone alone alone alone alone lone lone alone alone lone lone alone s;dkghs;lhkd;ljkf;lj;lsdjgf

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 07:22 PM   #69
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Few years ago I asked Billy if there would ever been another Siamese Dream box with more stuff and he gave some super snarky reply about it. Well, maybe don't give us such a hodge podge collection of outtakes then my dude? It'll be interesting to see if there will be another 30th box released. Doubt it though.
Do you think there's more unreleased, cohesive material from that era?

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 07:24 PM   #70
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it feels futile to even try to analyze the songs musically at all. in the hands of 2023 corgan nothing will truly be good or moving or....pleasant again

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 08:53 PM   #71
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The great rallying cries in SP songs:

1991: "I am one as you are three"

1993: "Today is the greatest day I've ever known"

1995: "The world is a vampire, sent to drain"

1998: "It's you that I adore. You will always be my whore"

2000: "You know I'm not dead!"

2007: "Revolution...revolution...revolution blues"

2010: (to the opening chords of "Widow Wake My Mind"): "Oh....oh...oh"

2012: "I will be Special K"

2014: "My love is strange"

2018: "She stabs the empty clock"

2020: "Swooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon"

2023: Alone, alone, lone, lone, lone

To be fair, I admit the Shiny and CYR lyrics work in context...but still

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 09:05 PM   #72
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In Lieu Of Giving Way To Fans Who Don't Want Plastic Sounding Music, Failure

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 09:25 PM   #73
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The great rallying cries in SP songs:

1991: "I am one as you are three"

1993: "Today is the greatest day I've ever known"

1995: "The world is a vampire, sent to drain"

1998: "It's you that I adore. You will always be my whore"

2000: "You know I'm not dead!"

2007: "Revolution...revolution...revolution blues"

2010: (to the opening chords of "Widow Wake My Mind"): "Oh....oh...oh"

2012: "I will be Special K"

2014: "My love is strange"

2018: "She stabs the empty clock"

2020: "Swooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon"

2023: Alone, alone, lone, lone, lone

To be fair, I admit the Shiny and CYR lyrics work in context...but still
No, it's RETURN THE FAITH

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 09:25 PM   #74
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Or maybe OOOOOO EMPAAAAHS

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 09:43 PM   #75
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does billy think 1996 = guitars drums vocals and no synth?

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 11:02 PM   #76
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i wish he'd at least put something like stumbeline on there. no kite cole or synth, just him in a bedroom with an acoustic to cassette

 
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Old 03-15-2023, 11:25 PM   #77
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I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller
I wish I had a girl who looked good, I would call her
I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat
And a six-four Impala

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 12:28 AM   #78
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i wish he'd at least put something like stumbeline on there. no kite cole or synth, just him in a bedroom with an acoustic to cassette
The problem is he can't fucking sing

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 12:32 AM   #79
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ah yeah very true

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 12:47 AM   #80
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I think he can still sing in a way that would sound fine if he wanted to. That recent live version of Muzzle illustrates that. And there are certain parts song ATUM where he doesn't sound bad. It's more that the way he chooses to sing now often has some weird affectation and bad production. His voice should never be front and center and pushed up in a mix. It should be set back in the mix a bit. I don't know why he's always been obsessed with dry vocals, but the guy really could use some reverb/echo for some depth. It would just make things sound richer.

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 01:34 AM   #81
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Im sorry, but have you sold millions of records?
You think you know better than WPC?

Yep.

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 01:40 AM   #82
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is dry ever a good word?

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 02:08 AM   #83
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Im sorry, but have you sold millions of records?
You think you know better than WPC?

Yep.
Uh have you met Netphoria? The whole point of the forum is knowing better than WPC. Has he sold millions of records from 2007-present? Maybe a couple hundred thousand of Zeitgeist but thatís about it. You donít need to do the thing to have an opinion on the thing either.

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 02:44 AM   #84
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I know what I like better than Billy Corgan does

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 03:14 AM   #85
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No one believes he made a three star record, no one. We believe he made a 2 star record.

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Old 03-16-2023, 03:28 AM   #86
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I mean, you do sound like you know what youíre talking about. Want to produce my bands next record?

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 03:36 AM   #87
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Uh have you met Netphoria? The whole point of the forum is knowing better than WPC. Has he sold millions of records from 2007-present? Maybe a couple hundred thousand of Zeitgeist but thatís about it. You donít need to do the thing to have an opinion on the thing either.
I was agreeing with you dummy

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 05:16 AM   #88
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i wish he'd at least put something like stumbeline on there. no kite cole or synth, just him in a bedroom with an acoustic to cassette
Springtimes probably ticked that box in his mind.

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 08:45 AM   #89
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I'd like these songs a lot more if it were D'arcy singing instead of Billy

 
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Old 03-16-2023, 10:49 AM   #90
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I couldn't even tell you what song "Swoooooooooon" is from.

Wouldn't it be "tangents vex the whorl" or Sah-main Sah-main

 
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