Pajo is joining Sweeny and Oldham for their tour

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

Just like when Pajo slept with Björn's wife while recording with Zwan? Right

You mean, 10 years before his suicide attempt?

Originally Posted by themadcaplaughs

Note obviously seems to be hinting he did something pretty bad when he confronted her; enough that it seems to be the impetus for not being able to see his children at the time. If it was not actually striking her, I imagine he blew up enough to make her fear for her safety.

Considering it was a custody battle, it was most likely a restraining order.

EDIT: IT WAS NOT A RESTRAINING ORDER.

[paranoid]

Originally Posted by paranoid

and yup, here is a link to the original note, where he say's "striking." dude hit his wife when he found out about her affair.

https://determinethenow.tumblr.com/p...-hes-alive/amp

Just in case those of you who called me a sociopath with a bad memory, here’s the original note where he admits to striking her.

Assholes.

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by paranoid

Just in case those of you who called me a sociopath with a bad memory, here’s the original note where he admits to striking her.

Assholes.

Whoa...wait

I have never seen that version of the note. Editing that one sentence changes the whole note.

I retract my statements and yield to paranoid!

[Funbags]

Fuck...I'm totally happy to acknowledge my mistake on this one.

[paranoid]

pano gas lighting his fans after deciding he'd rather live.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by DiscoJon

Here's the note for those that wanna know.

http://pinkhollers.blogspot.com/2015...heart.html?m=1

You know what's funny, I also remember it saying "striking" and not "confronting"

brains b weird

[Butt Pope]

Spiderland is boring wanking around.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by paranoid

and yup, here is a link to the original note, where he say's "striking." dude hit his wife when he found out about her affair.

https://determinethenow.tumblr.com/p...-hes-alive/amp

oh.well then

brains r still weird but you know

[reprise85]

I remembered it being quoted somewhere. here's the spicy thread: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...=Pajo+striking

[run2pee]

Cant say im surprised at all that u various dicks can’t resist being dicks to each other in here. Meanwhile. As for my house. Can’t wait to see/hear the chemistry/sparks b/w jeff shredder and aeroplane turns left looks right mode +
how they interpret, e.g., A New Poetry

[paranoid]

Originally Posted by reprise85

I remembered it being quoted somewhere. here's the spicy thread: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...=Pajo+striking

thanks for posting that. reading that, it's amazing how dated some of those opinions are 6 years after the fact. mental health being an excuse for abuse, etc etc.

anyway, fun fact, my band played a small town fest with him on a bill in his first show post suicide attempt. he watched my set and instagrammed it that was pretty cool. his set was phenomenal.

and he was nice. but at that point was and still am conflicted with his manipulative and abusive behavior he presented at that time. Had that happened in 2020, i doubt he'd been invited to play that same fest.. with my friends that run it being super progressive liberals and all. again, wild how views can change when it comes to abusive behavior, gaslighting, mental health, etc etc in just a matter of a few years.

the bald lord wasn't wrong about him, i guess? i want a fucking zwan tell all book from all of the members. fucking hell that would be a wild read.

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by Funbags

Whoa...wait

I have never seen that version of the note. Editing that one sentence changes the whole note.

I retract my statements and yield to paranoid!

Me too, ffs. Now he comes off as just another hopeless, immature narcissist with violent tendencies. No thanks.

[lavrentis]

Zwan reunion? Get in.

[Butt Pope]

Did Billy lose money on Zwan or did the label give him huge money upfront because he was 5-6 years removed from Mellon Collie? I’m guessing he did fine while the others didn’t get much

[slunken]

Originally Posted by paranoid

thanks for posting that. reading that, it's amazing how dated some of those opinions are 6 years after the fact. mental health being an excuse for abuse, etc etc.

anyway, fun fact, my band played a small town fest with him on a bill in his first show post suicide attempt. he watched my set and instagrammed it that was pretty cool. his set was phenomenal.

and he was nice. but at that point was and still am conflicted with his manipulative and abusive behavior he presented at that time. Had that happened in 2020, i doubt he'd been invited to play that same fest.. with my friends that run it being super progressive liberals and all. again, wild how views can change when it comes to abusive behavior, gaslighting, mental health, etc etc in just a matter of a few years.

the bald lord wasn't wrong about him, i guess? i want a fucking zwan tell all book from all of the members. fucking hell that would be a wild read.

so you want to brag about him but also drag him. interesting position. very weird flex.

[paranoid]

Originally Posted by slunken

so you want to brag about him but also drag him. interesting position. very weird flex.

Yup I’m a weird one

[paranoid]

If it’s there to flex, why not? Dude was in slint. I can still brag about it and think he’s a piece of shit as a person.

[Joey Goldberg]

no you can't god damnit PICK YOUR POISON, PARDNOID

[brothahi4L]

Please dont make any jokes about suicide attempts.

Paja seemed to have probs.
Dude.... listen to neil young...dont let it bring you down..

Dont let a woman control your feelings man.... self esteem boys.....

I dont need a wige or girl or whatever to feel good. I got my hand and my cock....do feel free to wank yours and after flooding the floor you feel no desire to meet a chick..... try it kids..... make em hard and feel free like u never did before

[Forgotten Child]

Originally Posted by brothahi4L

Please dont make any jokes about suicide attempts.

Paja seemed to have probs.
Dude.... listen to neil young...dont let it bring you down..

Dont let a woman control your feelings man.... self esteem boys.....

I dont need a wige or girl or whatever to feel good. I got my hand and my cock....do feel free to wank yours and after flooding the floor you feel no desire to meet a chick..... try it kids..... make em hard and feel free like u never did before

Try guys

[wpc33]

LOL @ judging Pajo. Billy is even better at adultery than guitar. The husband of his mistress killed himself. Willy Air Jordan Corgan, 3 points!

[Joey Goldberg]

3rd best zwan member is the thumbnail of them playing that festival or whatever

you know the one

[Mals Marola]

i agree