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10-25-2020, 06:27 PM | #121 |
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10-25-2020, 06:48 PM | #122 |
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10-25-2020, 08:39 PM | #123 |
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Official title is:
MCIS: Return of the Sadness, Machina III, Vol. 1 |
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10-25-2020, 08:45 PM | #124 |
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She was actually. In the Ultrasound MTV special before the release of Adore she talks about how Billy wrote some of the most beautiful songs she has ever heard for the album. It seemed to be Machina she had more of an issue with with Billy trying to be Marilyn Manson and doing a concept album and wearing the gaultier and all that shit.
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10-25-2020, 09:00 PM | #126 | |
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10-26-2020, 02:58 AM | #127 |
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10-26-2020, 03:47 AM | #128 |
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Not denying that now that you guys are pointing it out but she did express some frustration during the recording of the album saying she didn't care for using computers instead of instruments.
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10-26-2020, 09:56 AM | #130 |
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D’Arcy is fairly suspicious of technology. There’s an interview from 1995 where she gripes about people spending too much time on their computers.
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10-26-2020, 11:04 AM | #131 |
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d'arcy predicted q
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10-26-2020, 11:22 AM | #132 |
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I don't know if you can say Billy is intentionally retconning the band's history with him playing characters.
Hindsight is 20/20 and I'm not sure if he meant he was literally "in character" during the MCIS run, or else that he was internalizing a bunch of shit and playing a character to keep it together. If you're on a massive tour playing 3 hour shows every night I can definitely see it. It is bullshit to say all interviews and things like that were in character, because all the contemporary records have no evidence whatsoever for that. |
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10-26-2020, 11:32 AM | #133 |
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didn't D'arcy go on record as saying Adore should've been a Billy solo album? that's the only real "gripe" i've heard from her on it
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10-26-2020, 12:53 PM | #134 |
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if Adore were his solo album, it would have been his first and only good solo album
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10-26-2020, 12:59 PM | #135 |
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10-26-2020, 01:22 PM | #136 |
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10-26-2020, 01:58 PM | #138 |
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I think MCIS Billy was playing into his teenage thoughts/desires/wants. He was intentionally being juvenile, as he saw it as his last chance to have that kind of grandiose/idealistic/"true self" expression that a teenager would want.
So he was playing a character of his younger self, basically. That's been my understanding for a while. He was in his late 20's but letting his 15-20 year old emotional self take control for the lyrics/themes. I think it was more genuine on SD (especially because songs like Rocket and Silverfuck were already largely written in like 1990 - his early 20s), and he knew it was his last hurrah with that type of material and went all out with it on MCIS. |
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10-26-2020, 02:33 PM | #139 |
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we know that, yes, but there's the simple yet wildly important factor of them actually releasing it under the Pumpkins' name. it'd be like if Scott Weiland had convinced the rest of the band to put out "8 Bar Blues" as an STP record
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10-26-2020, 02:52 PM | #140 | ||
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Kinda funny how Mellon Collie is their best album, yet it's their most band album of them all. 4 people together in a room. This is gonna be the problem with the sequel album. Billy is never gonna capture that band in a room feeling because there is no band in a room. But with the way Billy records today, we'll be lucky if it sounds like another Zeitgeist album. |
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10-26-2020, 04:24 PM | #141 | |
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I mean, you go from Tristessa and Glynis and Quiet to Zero, Porcelina of the Vast Oceans, Medellia of the Grey Skies so certainly the melodrama is amped up. |
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10-27-2020, 12:57 AM | #142 |
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10-27-2020, 01:23 AM | #143 |
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In all fairness I think they said they were meeting at a studio to record. At least Billy and Jimmy are
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10-27-2020, 01:35 AM | #144 | |
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10-27-2020, 03:00 AM | #145 | |
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humility is an absolute bop i mean i'm not sure if i'd rather that or fuckin vouchsafe cyyylllindeoux: an art piece for the flugelhorn in F# |
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10-27-2020, 03:06 AM | #146 | ||
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10-27-2020, 09:29 AM | #147 |
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brain rotage brain rottage brain rotage
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10-27-2020, 09:30 AM | #148 |
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has it been mentioned that Big Bill said "announcement of an announcement"
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10-27-2020, 09:55 AM | #149 |
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10-27-2020, 10:40 AM | #150 |
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Ram I'm sorry but there's a Dr. Seuss joke in there waiting to happen
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