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Old 07-10-2022, 01:17 PM   #1
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Default Rank Zeitgeist Through Cyr

Inspired by the recent thread about Cyr. Curious to see how you think these last 15 years (yikes) of output stack against each other. Leave classic SP out of this, since I already know most of your opinions about that.

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 01:22 PM   #2
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yikes.

no list could do this thread justice. all answers would be wrong.





PISCES>TAFH>SD>MCIS>MachinaI&II>Gish=ADORE

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 01:27 PM   #3
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I feel like reddit style #serious tags don't apply here, or I would have added one. To be clear, there's a reason I didn't list my own ranking. I need help sorting out my uh, feelings, about the back half of the catalog.

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 01:33 PM   #4
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#serious

there's no proper ranking because no one should be thinking about this too much.

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 01:42 PM   #5
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Zeitgeist
MTaE (drumming and guitar tones way better than Oach)
Oceania
Teargarden
Cyr

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 04:08 PM   #6
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1 Cyr (has solid handbasketful of the least-offensive songs of any of these terrible albums)
2 MTAE (good recording/mix, has dorian and the one about toniiiiiiiiiiiight we are yoooooooouohohung so let’s set the world on fiyah)
3 shiny (cause it have meadow goats which is my fave late period track hands down)
4 Zeit (cause neverlost stellar and the guitar riff on that second song)
5 Oash (couple good sounding guitar songs, inkless is good despite lurid/criminal subject matter)
6 TbK (fuck this shit, u put wake my mind on here it sinks the whole total fucken)

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 04:42 PM   #7
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they all suck about as much as each other, it's pointless to measure precisely how much if i don't want to put myself through listening to them

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 04:44 PM   #8
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zeitgeist
monuments
eeesh
ew!
who cares
oceania
the other ones

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 04:45 PM   #9
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1 Cyr (has solid handbasketful of the least-offensive songs of any of these terrible albums)
see this is probably why i essentially got off the train with this one (in terms of listening to their new releases even on free streaming, not conversing with its abundance of loving & warm-hearted fans on a late-90s styled internet forum) i want to be god damn OFFENDED when i put on the might sp. offended, moved to tears, shifted into a rare moment of unadultered, uninterrupted joy - not simply "eh, sure whatever"-ing through it all

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 06:00 PM   #10
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they all suck about as much as each other, it's pointless to measure precisely how much if i don't want to put myself through listening to them
I feel like they all have their own flavor of suck, at least.

Zeitgeist- brash attempt at radio rock suck
Oceania - lack of hooks and impersonation of enlightened moon people suck
MTAE - short and shallow suck
Shiny- false promises suck
Cyr - synthesizer suck

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 07:23 PM   #11
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Let me just take the sweet outside real quick:

1: Oceania.
2: Zeitgeist.
3: Teargarden by Kaleidyscope.
4: Cyr.
5: No Past. No Future. No Sun.
6: Monuments to an Elegy.

Ogilala would be above Teargarden. Cotillions would be above Zeitgeist.

I don’t like any of these albums anywhere near as much as the originals barring Oceania and Cotillions. I had a love one pass away and that snowy winter Cotillions as a whole really moved me, for that reason I could never properly justify why I think that album’s fucking incredible but that’s the best I can do, sorry dorks. Oceania I just think is a really nice album with quite a few really great songs on it! It’s obviously not as raw or as emotional as Siamese but I’ve got a lot of fond memories of Oceania, some nice hot summers biking and blaring it out in the car with the boys.

Each of the other albums have like at least one song I think is top tier.

United States
Cottonwood Symphony
Drum + Fife
Amarinthe
With Sympathy
Purple Blood

I ain’t gonna B no friggin SP2 hater, sorry boyz!!!

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 07:34 PM   #12
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Might as well think about it a bit more and post em all together - strap yr butts in for the worst SP ranking you ever did see!

Machina / The Machines of God
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
Adore
Siamese Dream
TheFutureEmbrace
Machina II
Oceania
Cotillions
Gish
Zeitgeist
Mary Star of the Sea
Ogilala
Teargarden by Kaleidyscope
Cyr
No Past. No Future. No Sun.
Monuments to an Elegy

YEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 08:58 PM   #13
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I feel like they all have their own flavor of suck, at least.
i've never liked playing "would you rather"

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 10:59 PM   #14
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ZG is the only one I rank alongside the original run, it seems like the fitting conclusion to, if not the band, at least BC & JC playing their asses off together. listen to it via that 1 fan mix that essentially just lowered BC's lethargic vocals & had an extended version of the silver edition tracklist? aaaawww SHIT yeah

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 11:35 PM   #15
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1 Cyr (has solid handbasketful of the least-offensive songs of any of these terrible albums)
2 MTAE (good recording/mix, has dorian and the one about toniiiiiiiiiiiight we are yoooooooouohohung so let’s set the world on fiyah)
3 shiny (cause it have meadow goats which is my fave late period track hands down)
4 Zeit (cause neverlost stellar and the guitar riff on that second song)
5 Oash (couple good sounding guitar songs, inkless is good despite lurid/criminal subject matter)
6 TbK (fuck this shit, u put wake my mind on here it sinks the whole total fucken)

oh wow it is really bleak to see each of these albums and try to think through and rank them... i could pick a few songs from each that are pretty decent, and even a couple that are mostly but not entirely good.. but the rest are offensive

what a terrible streak

 
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Old 07-10-2022, 11:54 PM   #16
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Old 07-11-2022, 04:28 PM   #17
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Same..i could pick a song here and there, but those albums as a whole dont do it for me...
Zeitgeist was a massive disappointment....but less did i know that the downfall was just about to start.....
I still remember hundred comments that james would be the missing link....but honestly...what did he change?? Noooooothing

 
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:04 PM   #18
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Agree with run2me mostly.

Cyr (most consistent, some of the best material since SP1)
Ogilala
Shiny 1 (cos Goats)
ZG (would be top if the mix wasn’t so bad)
MTAE
Cotillions
TbK (cos Tom Tom)
Oceania (like trying to orgasm on a depressant - you can but it doesn’t feel like anything)

 
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:16 PM   #19
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Oceania
CYR
Ogilala
Zeitgeist
Cotillions
SOSB
Monuments / TbK

 
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Old 07-11-2022, 10:43 PM   #20
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The Lower Tier looks like Billy taking a dump. Is that what it is?

 
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Old 07-11-2022, 10:45 PM   #21
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i wrote out a list then stopped because it was too sad and depressing trying to evaluate these

 
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Old 07-11-2022, 11:05 PM   #22
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aww come on. i enjoy reading descriptions of why things are terrible!

 
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that's why i'm still here. what other reason could there even be?

 
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:45 AM   #24
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hey i have a good one, a classic game of Would You Rather

would you rather cut off an essential body part/limb or spend a beautiful afternoon listening to CYR in full?

 
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:45 AM   #25
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i'm going to have to sleep on that one, myszelf

 
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:48 AM   #26
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Zeitgeist is cool & people who are still crying about the "mix" in this year of our saviour are fucking goofy

get a job, mother fucker!

 
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high praise

 
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Old 07-12-2022, 05:09 AM   #28
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I wish they swapped some of the tracks on Cyr out for b sides, like Glynis.

 
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:46 AM   #29
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Zeitgeist
Teargarden By Kaleidyscope
Monuments To An Elegy
Oceania
Shiny
Cyr / Ogilala / Cottilions

 
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Old 07-12-2022, 07:24 AM   #30
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I need help sorting out my uh, feelings, about the back half of the catalog.
I think the words you are looking for are "ass end"

 
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