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07-10-2022, 01:17 PM | #1 |
Braindead
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Rank Zeitgeist Through Cyr
Inspired by the recent thread about Cyr. Curious to see how you think these last 15 years (yikes) of output stack against each other. Leave classic SP out of this, since I already know most of your opinions about that.
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07-10-2022, 01:22 PM | #2 |
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yikes.
no list could do this thread justice. all answers would be wrong. PISCES>TAFH>SD>MCIS>MachinaI&II>Gish=ADORE |
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07-10-2022, 01:27 PM | #3 |
Braindead
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I feel like reddit style #serious tags don't apply here, or I would have added one. To be clear, there's a reason I didn't list my own ranking. I need help sorting out my uh, feelings, about the back half of the catalog.
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07-10-2022, 01:33 PM | #4 |
Socialphobic
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#serious
there's no proper ranking because no one should be thinking about this too much. |
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07-10-2022, 01:42 PM | #5 |
Minion of Satan
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Zeitgeist
MTaE (drumming and guitar tones way better than Oach) Oceania Teargarden Cyr |
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07-10-2022, 04:08 PM | #6 |
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1 Cyr (has solid handbasketful of the least-offensive songs of any of these terrible albums)
2 MTAE (good recording/mix, has dorian and the one about toniiiiiiiiiiiight we are yoooooooouohohung so let’s set the world on fiyah) 3 shiny (cause it have meadow goats which is my fave late period track hands down) 4 Zeit (cause neverlost stellar and the guitar riff on that second song) 5 Oash (couple good sounding guitar songs, inkless is good despite lurid/criminal subject matter) 6 TbK (fuck this shit, u put wake my mind on here it sinks the whole total fucken) |
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07-10-2022, 04:42 PM | #7 |
Braindead
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they all suck about as much as each other, it's pointless to measure precisely how much if i don't want to put myself through listening to them
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07-10-2022, 04:44 PM | #8 |
Minion of Satan
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zeitgeist
monuments eeesh ew! who cares oceania the other ones |
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07-10-2022, 04:45 PM | #9 |
Minion of Satan
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see this is probably why i essentially got off the train with this one (in terms of listening to their new releases even on free streaming, not conversing with its abundance of loving & warm-hearted fans on a late-90s styled internet forum) i want to be god damn OFFENDED when i put on the might sp. offended, moved to tears, shifted into a rare moment of unadultered, uninterrupted joy - not simply "eh, sure whatever"-ing through it all
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07-10-2022, 06:00 PM | #10 | |
Braindead
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Quote:
Zeitgeist- brash attempt at radio rock suck Oceania - lack of hooks and impersonation of enlightened moon people suck MTAE - short and shallow suck Shiny- false promises suck Cyr - synthesizer suck |
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07-10-2022, 07:23 PM | #11 |
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Let me just take the sweet outside real quick:
1: Oceania. 2: Zeitgeist. 3: Teargarden by Kaleidyscope. 4: Cyr. 5: No Past. No Future. No Sun. 6: Monuments to an Elegy. Ogilala would be above Teargarden. Cotillions would be above Zeitgeist. I don’t like any of these albums anywhere near as much as the originals barring Oceania and Cotillions. I had a love one pass away and that snowy winter Cotillions as a whole really moved me, for that reason I could never properly justify why I think that album’s fucking incredible but that’s the best I can do, sorry dorks. Oceania I just think is a really nice album with quite a few really great songs on it! It’s obviously not as raw or as emotional as Siamese but I’ve got a lot of fond memories of Oceania, some nice hot summers biking and blaring it out in the car with the boys. Each of the other albums have like at least one song I think is top tier. United States Cottonwood Symphony Drum + Fife Amarinthe With Sympathy Purple Blood I ain’t gonna B no friggin SP2 hater, sorry boyz!!! |
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07-10-2022, 07:34 PM | #12 |
Ownz
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Might as well think about it a bit more and post em all together - strap yr butts in for the worst SP ranking you ever did see!
Machina / The Machines of God Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Adore Siamese Dream TheFutureEmbrace Machina II Oceania Cotillions Gish Zeitgeist Mary Star of the Sea Ogilala Teargarden by Kaleidyscope Cyr No Past. No Future. No Sun. Monuments to an Elegy YEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!! |
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07-10-2022, 08:58 PM | #13 |
Braindead
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07-10-2022, 10:59 PM | #14 |
Minion of Satan
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ZG is the only one I rank alongside the original run, it seems like the fitting conclusion to, if not the band, at least BC & JC playing their asses off together. listen to it via that 1 fan mix that essentially just lowered BC's lethargic vocals & had an extended version of the silver edition tracklist? aaaawww SHIT yeah
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07-10-2022, 11:35 PM | #15 | |
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oh wow it is really bleak to see each of these albums and try to think through and rank them... i could pick a few songs from each that are pretty decent, and even a couple that are mostly but not entirely good.. but the rest are offensive what a terrible streak |
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07-10-2022, 11:54 PM | #16 |
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07-11-2022, 04:28 PM | #17 |
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Same..i could pick a song here and there, but those albums as a whole dont do it for me...
Zeitgeist was a massive disappointment....but less did i know that the downfall was just about to start..... I still remember hundred comments that james would be the missing link....but honestly...what did he change?? Noooooothing |
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07-11-2022, 05:04 PM | #18 |
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Agree with run2me mostly.
Cyr (most consistent, some of the best material since SP1) Ogilala Shiny 1 (cos Goats) ZG (would be top if the mix wasn’t so bad) MTAE Cotillions TbK (cos Tom Tom) Oceania (like trying to orgasm on a depressant - you can but it doesn’t feel like anything) |
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07-11-2022, 05:16 PM | #19 |
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Oceania
CYR Ogilala Zeitgeist Cotillions SOSB Monuments / TbK |
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07-11-2022, 10:43 PM | #20 |
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07-11-2022, 10:45 PM | #21 |
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i wrote out a list then stopped because it was too sad and depressing trying to evaluate these
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07-11-2022, 11:05 PM | #22 |
Braindead
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aww come on. i enjoy reading descriptions of why things are terrible!
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07-11-2022, 11:05 PM | #23 |
Braindead
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that's why i'm still here. what other reason could there even be?
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07-12-2022, 01:45 AM | #24 |
Minion of Satan
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hey i have a good one, a classic game of Would You Rather
would you rather cut off an essential body part/limb or spend a beautiful afternoon listening to CYR in full? |
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07-12-2022, 01:45 AM | #25 |
Minion of Satan
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i'm going to have to sleep on that one, myszelf
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07-12-2022, 01:48 AM | #26 |
Minion of Satan
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Zeitgeist is cool & people who are still crying about the "mix" in this year of our saviour are fucking goofy
get a job, mother fucker! |
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07-12-2022, 03:24 AM | #27 |
Braindead
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07-12-2022, 05:09 AM | #28 |
Ownz
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I wish they swapped some of the tracks on Cyr out for b sides, like Glynis.
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07-12-2022, 06:46 AM | #29 |
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Zeitgeist
Teargarden By Kaleidyscope Monuments To An Elegy Oceania Shiny Cyr / Ogilala / Cottilions |
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07-12-2022, 07:24 AM | #30 |
Braindead
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