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Old 05-20-2021, 03:18 PM   #61
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I agree that the Adore tone is pretty monotonous. Though weirdly it also sounds like several album projects assembled together. Machina II has more stripped back production so it actually fits together pretty well, and it has many different tones so it is actually enjoyable to listen to. But I do wonder what happened with MII. Billy's whiny self-absorbed suffering makes Adore sound very self-indulgent today, while on MII he is playing a big ego star, but unlike on his more recent work, the focus still seems to be on songs and listenability.

And I don't know how so many of you can stick MI and MII together as albums. Whatever the artiste's true intention was, their production makes them sound like totally different projects.
When I talk of MII I mean all the EP tracks as well.

And yeah, thankfully Bill pushed it out unfinished. If he’d been given the greenlight it would’ve sounded a lot like M1 in the end. Machina is cool but it’s got a lot of skips.

And I don’t mind Adore either when I’m in the mood, but I’ve no desire to hear Shame, For Martha or Blank Page, even the rocked out live versions. I guess part of that is living long enough to go through shit yourself - listening to Corgan crooning about loss just doesn’t ring genuine, relatable or insightful as it did as a teenager.

Adore was very accurately appraised at the time - a solo album, which laboriously plays against the band’s established strengths. There was a time I thought it was peak art and ranked it as high as MCIS/SD, but that was cos I didn’t know better.

 
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Old 05-21-2021, 04:54 AM   #62
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Listen to James Iha's solo albums, you bastard.
Oh wow, u douchebag

Look to the sky is really fun! What the heck is wrong with me, ye peckerwood

That it took me so long? To listen to this, u hecken OAF, u

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Old 05-21-2021, 05:11 AM   #63
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Damn it’s like more pumpkins than any single record big stupid willie has been able to muster since the stupid breakup

Wow

 
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:00 AM   #64
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is it widely agreed upon you are Took's alt or nah?

genuine question

 
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:06 AM   #65
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How dare you disparage Took

 
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:13 AM   #66
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Damn it’s like more pumpkins than any single record big stupid willie has been able to muster since the stupid breakup

Wow
No idea if this is a genuine reaction or a pisstake.

Is everybody here a Took alt?

 
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Old 05-21-2021, 10:17 AM   #67
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No idea if this is a genuine reaction or a pisstake.

Is everybody here a Took alt?
Genuine reaction, butthead

 
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Old 05-21-2021, 11:57 AM   #68
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Yeah, it’s pretty friekin great. Lot of songs sound similar to “Go” which is one of my faves on mii. Didn’t expect to like it this much

 
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Old 05-21-2021, 12:54 PM   #69
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How dare you disparage Took
he's got a Coxon avatar & called James "Yoshinobu-san"

that is a Took-tastic combination and you fuckin' know it

 
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Old 05-21-2021, 02:59 PM   #70
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Yeah, it’s pretty friekin great. Lot of songs sound similar to “Go” which is one of my faves on mii. Didn’t expect to like it this much
100%. It sounds more like classic Pumpkins than Bilbo.

To Who Knows Where - Gemini - Speed of Love.

 
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Upper Tier: The Parable, Honor, Starchildren
Mid Tier: Auf der Maur, Out of Our Minds
Lower Tier: Last Hard Men
Haven't heard this: was D'arcy a member of Catherine? I don't know

 
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Thanks Swallowed. You’re an asset to the psych ward.

 
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Thanks Swallowed. You’re an asset to the psych ward.
Fuck you, asshole. Get off this board

 
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Old 05-22-2021, 03:25 AM   #75
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100%. It sounds more like classic Pumpkins than Bilbo.

To Who Knows Where - Gemini - Speed of Love.
You know what. This is like better than mid tier. This is up there with mii and like machina and aeroplane or whoever

Wow, iha! Why did i doubt u! Was it your vocals on some of them oh my gosh them tracks? Yes it was! But wow

This is a good album, thanks VoxUpDock, u convinced me to change my life and it's already paying off big time, even the dog can tell i'm differnt

 
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You know what. This is like better than mid tier. This is up there with mii and like machina and aeroplane or whoever

Wow, iha! Why did i doubt u! Was it your vocals on some of them oh my gosh them tracks? Yes it was! But wow

This is a good album, thanks VoxUpDock, u convinced me to change my life and it's already paying off big time, even the dog can tell i'm differnt
Even though you don't have a dog, I can tell this is a genuine and accurate response.

 
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where does this one rank?


 
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