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Old 07-26-2022, 05:58 PM   #4801
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Honestly I’ve been going off what that Tayter Tot guy said in the ‘where’s the album’ thread - that it has been pushed back to coincide roughly with the anniversary (February 28th due to no leap year). If it is not out/announced by March of next year all hope is lost.

In fact - I shall make a wager! May all bear witness!

If the Machina reissue has not been announced by March of next year, I shall log off my Netphoria account, forever. I will return to my many, many years of lurking in a state of funereal solitude, and never post here again.
the 2020 leap year would have made more sense. 20 yar annavarsarary

 
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Old 07-28-2022, 10:27 AM   #4802
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Manic Street Preachers announced a reimagined, remixed reissue of their early 00s album Know Your Enemy just a week or two ago, resequenced to include b-sides and outtakes in a double-album format more in line with what the band had originally intended



i've been a fan of MSP about as long as SP and never even knew it was a "Machina situation" of any kind, but apparently so. they announced this MAYBE 2 weeks ago and you know when it's coming out? a little over a month from now

it's that easy, babes, don't believe the LIES of Willy Pat

 
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Old 07-28-2022, 10:55 AM   #4803
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they've been talking about it for a couple of years at least.

I feel the last thing any post Holy Bible Manics album needs is more songs.

 
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:01 AM   #4804
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Honestly I’ve been going off what that Tayter Tot guy said in the ‘where’s the album’ thread - that it has been pushed back to coincide roughly with the anniversary (February 28th due to no leap year).
I asked my brother in law about that and he says everything that guy said was way off.

 
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:29 AM   #4805
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it's the first I'd heard of it so they couldn't have been too loud about it

your second comment is obv subjective and also what a lot of (dumb) people would say about post-MCIS, pre-breakup Pumpkins so you know

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Old 07-28-2022, 11:31 AM   #4806
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but also, tell your bro in law i said hello

 
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:39 AM   #4807
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They've definitely made less of a song and dance about it, so casual fans probably wouldn't know.

 
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Old 07-28-2022, 08:01 PM   #4808
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i've been having premonitions lately that an amzon link will pop up

 
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Old 07-29-2022, 07:15 AM   #4809
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will that amazon link have the tracklist? will we be excited or disapointedddd?

 
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Old 07-29-2022, 12:00 PM   #4810
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We wanted to believe. We wanted to call out. On February 29th and September 5th 2000, two albums were launched by The Smashing Pumpkins; they were called Machina. Each one carries a message.

Within that time, there were no further messages sent, nor are any planned. We wanted to listen.

I wanted to believe, but the tools had been taken away. The X-Files had been shut down. They closed our eyes, our voices have been silenced, our ears now deaf to the realms of extreme possibilities.

 
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Old 08-04-2022, 05:21 PM   #4811
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i bought a euro bootleg of Machina 2 because i was so fucking tired of the reissue not coming and guess what? it sounds fine!

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 08:32 AM   #4812
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Any minute now

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 08:56 PM   #4813
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quick question - if machina 2 so desperately needs to be "fixed" and "properly mastered" how come everyone loves the unmastered version of machina 1 vs the properly released album?

just a quick question

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 08:59 PM   #4814
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because they like the actual mixes of the Machina I stuff more than the Machina II stuff, but still not the mastering

next question PLEASE!!!

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:00 PM   #4815
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i will fight to my death all of this bullshit about machina 2 being magically fixed in some mystic impossible way via the reissue. the album sounds like what it sounds and it sounds incredible.

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:03 PM   #4816
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because they like the actual mixes of the Machina I stuff more than the Machina II stuff, but still not the mastering

next question PLEASE!!!
so you think everyone bitching about M2 just dislikes the mixing?? like the levels need adjusting?

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:05 PM   #4817
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there is this weird r-slur mythological status that dum-dums think they're suddenly going to get this magical brand new album just by sliding a few sliders up or down

it's so dumb!

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:06 PM   #4818
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i don't know, i've never personally bitched about M2 but it clearly seems to be too "dirty" for some people or whatev. but also I think a lot of people just wanting to hear that whole batch of tracks mixed together as the singular thing it was supposed to be? i don't know if that would neccesarily fix anything (provided shit needs fixing at all) but there is a more discernible difference between those 2 albums & say, Siamese Dream vs Pisces

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:10 PM   #4819
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i think i kind of get what you're saying - dum-dums just need to be told something is official before they think they're allowed to like it

 
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but there is a more discernible difference between those 2 albums & say, Siamese Dream vs Pisces
hard disagree

 
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extremely hard

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:19 PM   #4822
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Pisces is a collection of b-sides over like 4 years you're going to tell me it sounds more cohesive than machina vs machina 2

are you out of your mind???

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:25 PM   #4824
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i see you idiots lurking - you can't argue with this logic

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:28 PM   #4825
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Release date finally set: 08/08/2088

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:29 PM   #4826
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Pisces is a collection of b-sides over like 4 years
& yet it still sounds cohesive as fuck

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:10 PM   #4827
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I think Pisces sounds pretty darn cohesive. Machinas are a mess no matter what Billy does to them.

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:24 PM   #4828
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yea it sounds "cohesive" because most fans don't listen to gish and ignore the fact that 99% of the songs were previously released on singles

i'm not shitting on pisces (it's great) but calling it more cohesive than machina 2 is just extremely mentally challenged

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:35 PM   #4829
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i just wanna hear PROMISE godfuckingdammit

 
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:40 PM   #4830
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IT'S CHINESE DEMOCRACY ALL OVER AGAIN

 
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