12tone: Understanding that "Rat in a Cage" song

[T&T]

hummer: someone who doesn't know music theory, but plays by ear.

this selfawareness (in the song title) was little things are what made billy a king to me.
(I"m not even sure that others know this meaning behind th word - does everyone assume he titled the song after the truck???? IIRC it only became a household known vehicle in the late 90's)

[redbreegull]

it's a kind of blowjob... duh?

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by T&T

hummer: someone who doesn't know music theory, but plays by ear.

It really sounds like a very non-Billy Corgan thing to say, tbh. How do you know he used the word in that context?

That's the guy who put a Kranky records sticker on his most famous guitar apparently unaware it was a Chicago record label.

[run2pee]

It’s about the truck u fucken dummies

Did u every stop to ask yourself to contemplate how much life’s a bummer, when some hot n smelly apes climb up right inside of u, or hang out in your guts, twisting and pulling on stuff all day long, farting into u etc

[run2pee]

Big willie was showing us he cares about the cars as well as the ppl

[Baffler_Meal]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

It’s about the truck u fucken dummies

Did u every stop to ask yourself to contemplate how much life’s a bummer, when some hot n smelly apes climb up right inside of u, or hang out in your guts, twisting and pulling on stuff all day long, farting into u etc

Peak Mazzy Star.

[T&T]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

it's a kind of blowjob... duh?

life's a bummer when you're a blowjob.

[T&T]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

That's the guy who put a Kranky records sticker on his most famous guitar apparently unaware it was a Chicago record label.

picture of the guitar?

[T&T]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

It really sounds like a very non-Billy Corgan thing to say, tbh. How do you know he used the word in that context?

what context did you understand it in?

[teh b0lly!!1]

life is a bummer when you are humming to other people's song instead of bleeding in your own fucking light

[teh b0lly!!1]

but perhaps i'm wrong and big bruce did in fact cram a song about the terrible woes of not knowing music theory right after the song about committing suicide and right before the songs addressed directly to his abusive parents and estranged lover

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by T&T

picture of the guitar?

[T&T]

it's not litterally about 'not knowing music theory', but how you get by by faking it.

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by T&T

what context did you understand it in?

On February 5th, 2000, Smashing Pumpkins played a show in Portland, Oregon in which they opened up the floor for a Q & A session. One fan asked, “Why do you have a song called ‘Hummer?’” Billy Corgan responded:

"Ever since I wrote that song I’ve heard many definitions for the word hummer. I’ve heard that there’s a car called a Hummer, I heard that Monica gave Bill a hummer in the White House, but quite honestly in my innocent youth, I imagined it being someone who just walked around humming a song to himself."

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

On February 5th, 2000, Smashing Pumpkins played a show in Portland, Oregon in which they opened up the floor for a Q & A session. One fan asked, “Why do you have a song called ‘Hummer?’” Billy Corgan responded:

"Ever since I wrote that song I’ve heard many definitions for the word hummer. I’ve heard that there’s a car called a Hummer, I heard that Monica gave Bill a hummer in the White House, but quite honestly in my innocent youth, I imagined it being someone who just walked around humming a song to himself."

Around 4:55

https://archive.org/details/tsp2000-...2-05d1t10.flac

[fluxequalsrad]

I had no idea that "Honk if you hate people" sticker was for Kranky records, and I think thats neat. SP + Stars of the Lid make it happen.

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by Funbags

Around 4:55

https://archive.org/details/tsp2000-...2-05d1t10.flac

It sounds like shit mate, it is correct isn't?

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad

I had no idea that "Honk if you hate people" sticker was for Kranky records, and I think thats neat. SP + Stars of the Lid make it happen.

That'd be fucking mega

[srt4b]

a poll: what is more insufferable?

a. this thread
b. the 12tones video

[Shallowed]

you

[slunken]

Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad

I had no idea that "Honk if you hate people" sticker was for Kranky records, and I think thats neat. SP + Stars of the Lid make it happen.

he probably got the sticker from james.

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by slunken

he probably got the sticker from james.

SP weren't connoisseurs of music. James was into The Eagles and Gram Parsons, not Labradford and Stars of the Lid lol.

Billy probably found the sticker somewhere in Chicago and liked what the sticker said. He had no idea what Kranky was.