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Old 02-27-2008, 01:45 AM   #181
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don't take monte seriously. please.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:47 AM   #182
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And I'll join the choir about people taking this vid way too seriously.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:49 AM   #183
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why don't you actually respond to that skipgo?

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:49 AM   #184
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don't take monte seriously. please.
And don't you take him to be, like, some sort of sarcastic comic genius.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:50 AM   #185
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this was my first thought. the vocals were awesome and not too up front.

okay, this makes me wonder if you play or have ever played any instruments, especially bass and guitar. because if you do, you must be retarded. and if you don't, don't talk about things you know nothing about. stating your opinion of their personalities would be appropriate. but we don't know what you mean by JEFF AND GINGER SUCK. what part of them sucks? because if it's their instrumentalist qualities you're talking about, then shut up because you're wrong. anyone with ears knows that (anyone with ears that listens to the pumpkins).

yes about the first part. however, i believe jeff is better than james by a long shot. maybe not on james level of matching with the pumpkins, but who would, especially since james was the original. my opinion is that jeff plays better. he has more skills.
lol.. im actually a music major (im not stating this to say my opinion i more valid than yours, just pointing out the irony).. but i wasnt stating clear enough i suppose..

they suck for the pumpkins, hands down. yes technically jeff is a great guitarist, but he's just another stock guitar player who learned the techniques and tricks appropriate for the rock and roll vocabulary. i can think of about 30 guitar players in my local area alone that can play just as well or better than him. Technically a better player than james, yes, but definately not as unique and definately does not have the same kind of energy james had, creatively and performance wise. the difference between jeff and james technique wise---> jeff can execute fast pentatonic licks faster and cleaner than james ever could.. and in the current live situation it gets annoying having two guitarist jus shred away aimlessly. james lack of technique forced him to focus more on melodi ideas, and effect laden wall of sounds that i felt created a better balance to billy's shredding chaos. Billy and James seemed to commincate better on a musical level, at least before things went sour.

ginger just doesnt cut it. ive heard her blunder shit up a numerous amount of times and the energy, again, is lacking. with a drummer like jimmy, the band needs a tighter, more energetic bassist to fill out the monstrous potential the rhythm section of this band could have.. billy does fine w/ ass parts in the studio, and i think blly mohler would have been a perfect fit for the live band.

i will say this, they sound fine on the new material (stellar sounds terrific).. but that's becase the old sp hadn't played on the old material, so there's nothing to compare it to. but tunes like porcelina, wbftt, sound flat and dry. billy's weaking vocals dont help this out either.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:51 AM   #186
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they cranked out a video for a b side and you tools are writing essays on netphoria about it.

yeah, corgan's the one that should be embarrassed

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:51 AM   #187
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i agree; the video is nothing to write home about, but it's nothing to get all worked up over, either. I'm far more interested in the song than the video.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:53 AM   #188
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And don't you take him to be, like, some sort of sarcastic comic genius.
trust me, the only thing i take monte for is a douche.
seriously.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:53 AM   #189
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why don't you actually respond to that skipgo?
respond to what?

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:57 AM   #190
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they cranked out a video for a b side and you tools are writing essays on netphoria about it.

yeah, corgan's the one that should be embarrassed
well what exactly do you think netphoria is for?

ps. sorry i should've used multiquote i guess.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:57 AM   #191
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respond to what?
I think he expected you to defend Netphoria the Great Website against my issuance of disrespect.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:59 AM   #192
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i mean damn, where were the squeeling whammy guitar parts for wbftt that james plays that made the song that much more kick ass? jeff just doubled the riff during the recent tour.

WBFTT 1996> WBFTT 2007

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:00 AM   #193
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Hey guys, I think the hippies symbolize that those guys are friends of billy's.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:01 AM   #194
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I think he expected you to defend Netphoria the Great Website against my issuance of disrespect.
"why, how dare you insult our esteemed forum!"

but seriously, i respect the opinion of jjbjjbjjb far more than that of mr. gorilla suit. Maybe because monte acts like such a self-important prick every time i see him post.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:01 AM   #195
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If Corgan is going to have to give an extensive quote on the meaning/whatever associated with this video in order to make some people here happy then this forum has truly gotten silly. Jesus Christ, everyone lighten up.

and quick comment: musician-wise, Ginger and Jeff are as technically proficient/talented as James and D'arcy. And quite frankly I have no idea how this debate got into one about this video.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:04 AM   #196
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respond to what?
corganist.

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I think he expected you to defend Netphoria the Great Website against my issuance of disrespect.
yeah i haven't really been paying much attention to you.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:05 AM   #197
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i brought it up because someone mentioned that jeff and ginger should be in the video and i stated that i dont give a flying fuck about those two.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:05 AM   #198
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...the Geek USA performance on the Greatest Hits DVD featured clowns...
lol, those clowns were the first thing i thought of when i saw this supachrist vid.

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...mohler would have been a perfect fit for the live band....

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:06 AM   #199
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wow. because he agrees with you?
Thats usually how netphoria works.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:07 AM   #200
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damn myspace! It was set to private. Oh well.
Kahlo, is that you?

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:08 AM   #201
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they cranked out a video for a b side and you tools are writing essays on netphoria about it.
What the fuck should we talk about? Another Survivor poll?

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:08 AM   #202
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corganist.
oh ok. well, i was just kidding around, i pretty much agree with what corganist wrote, so i had nothing to add or debate in that case.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:09 AM   #203
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wow. because he agrees with you?
Yeah cause I really care about getting people to agree with me.

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Old 02-27-2008, 02:09 AM   #204
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Kahlo, is that you?
it would be priceless if mediamilitia turned out to be kahlo.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:13 AM   #205
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Jimmy's drumming is really the only thing that makes this video worth watching.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:14 AM   #206
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I don't understand what the problem is. Did you guys expect some big statement or concept? I will agree, the amount of time given to the Seeds guy got way out of hand; but given that this is a non-album track, they didn't need to make it grandiose. Not everything that the band produces has to be scrutinized. The band is there to create great music, not great music videos. It appears that videos aren't an importance to them.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:15 AM   #207
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i just wonder why in their longer songs these days there is such a lack of chord changes.

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:15 AM   #208
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it would be priceless if mediamilitia turned out to be kahlo.
I thought he mentioned applying for the job. idk

( i agree that jimmy's drumming doesn't disappoint)

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:20 AM   #209
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What! No Ginger?

 
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:21 AM   #210
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i just wonder why in their longer songs these days there is such a lack of chord changes.
what other longer song are you thinking of?

 
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