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Old 07-10-2008, 04:11 AM   #1
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Question Looking for that Machina II owners list

Does anyone know where I can find that list that says who owns one of the 25 Machina II vinyl sets? I remember seeing that list here before, but I can't find it. Some names were also linked to a number (e.g. 1: Billy Corgan; 19: Q101).

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Old 07-10-2008, 04:24 AM   #2
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The list will be posted ANY MINUTE NOW...

 
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:28 AM   #3
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the list is 21+ and will cost you 83 dollars

 
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:38 AM   #4
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:37 AM   #5
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ends up the archive doesn't go back beyond much more than 2002.. i can't recall seeing anyone talk about the list in a long time. but i know it was being added to all the time

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Old 07-10-2008, 11:05 AM   #6
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i'm fairly certain the list was posted when machina II showed up on ebay. when was that? 2004? 2005? if nobody has this list saved somewhere, i'll continue my search.

 
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:16 AM   #7
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i'm fairly certain the list was posted when machina II showed up on ebay. when was that? 2004? 2005? if nobody has this list saved somewhere, i'll continue my search.
Aug 2005. but i can't find the thread in the archive

all i can find is this
http://www.blamonet.com/vb/showthread.php?t=73046

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Old 07-10-2008, 11:18 AM   #8
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i've definitly seen the list posted in a thread in the last 15 months.


any leads on getting a lossless agnew 3% fast rip loaded up to the internet?
i'm stillllllll searching.

lets get mII uploaded in 24/96 as well while we're at it!!!!!!!!!!

 
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:32 AM   #9
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http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=102034 orignal thread

actually saved this to my computer one time when it came up because i wanted to remember.

confirmed:

billy
james
d'arcy
jimmy
melissa m. (manager)
gooch
gregory sylvester
joe shanahan
karl daher / spifc
eric agnew / spfc
dave asselin
q101
wxrt
3 copies not given out

numbers known:
original band members - 1-4
gregory sylvester - 11

other guesses:
matt walker
butch vig
flood
alan moulder
jimmy/dennis flemion

melissa a.d.m. did NOT get a copy

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Starseed talking on IRC

StArSeEd> that's Q101's alright.
StArSeEd> WXRT's is 20
ninjaprsn> StArSeEd: where did you get the numbers from?
StArSeEd> dahl's is 23, agnew's is 24, asselin's is 25
StArSeEd> shanahan's is 8
StArSeEd> corgan sr's is 7
StArSeEd> matuzak's is 6
StArSeEd> flood's is 5


When StArSeEd comes online I will ask him if he has more numbers...

So it looks like
1) Billy (?)
2) James (?)
3) D'arcy (?)
4) Jimmy (?)
5) Flood
6) Matuzak
7) Corgan Sr
8) Joe Shanahan
11) gregory sylvester

9, 10, 12-18, 21, 22 (?)

19) Someone in France? (formerly Q101)
20) WXRT
23) dahl's
24) agnew
25) asselin

Also looks like Dead coined the phrase "SP2"
http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...&postcount=594

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Old 07-10-2008, 11:52 AM   #10
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cool, thanks!

 
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:36 PM   #11
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Jay Leno has one

 
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Old 07-10-2008, 06:28 PM   #12
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probably because he listened to it for the first time

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 04:32 AM   #13
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i'm going to dig up bozo the clown to get his copy of machina II.

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:59 AM   #14
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i'm going to dig up bozo the clown to get his copy of machina II.
going through his belongings might be a better place to start.

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:02 AM   #15
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going through his belongings might be a better place to start.
surely he has stipulated in his will that he has to be buried with it! i mean, who wouldn't?

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:03 AM   #16
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..and miss out on all the fun?
and that!

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:50 AM   #17
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tigershorty/wolfgang/ (can't remember the real name) has one (if he hasn't sold it). it's where the o-site mp3's and the "virgin inhouse demos" came from

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:12 AM   #18
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and in trying to find out his real name, i stumbled upon this:

http://www.division13.com/division13...zwanJump0.html

IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:16 AM   #19
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tigershorty/wolfgang/ (can't remember the real name) has one (if he hasn't sold it). it's where the o-site mp3's and the "virgin inhouse demos" came from
tigershorty = gregory sylvester

if i recall correctly. nice find of the zwan site

but didn't the little intro use to play Lyric as it loads

http://www.division13.com/division13...site/main.html

 
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tigershorty = gregory sylvester

if i recall correctly. nice find of the zwan site

but didn't the little intro use to play Lyric as it loads

http://www.division13.com/division13...site/main.html
tigershorty were in fact two people, one was supposedly jim evans (or coulld have been that sylvester guy, but i doubt it, since art direction for machina and website-design/maintainance were done by different companies) and the other someone else (the guy i try to remember), wolfgang was just the guy i try to remember, he was there for the first euro-zwan tour, along with lester cohn

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:48 AM   #21
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WE WANT A FRESH RIP OF THIS LP!!!!!!
24BIT 96KHZ
PLEASSSSSE

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:29 PM   #22
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who do you think can make this transfer you're requesting?

i mean, you can ask, and ask again, but who's going to do it?

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:34 PM   #23
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and while we're at it, what exactly does "hand-cut" and "non-lacquered acetate" mean? does this say anything about the quality and/or the lifetime of these vinyls?

http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/d...?discog_id=153
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25 (twenty-five) copies on hand-cut, hand-numbered, non-lacquered acetate

 
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i'm going to assume that "hand cut" probably means there's no metal plate made
the metal plate would be molded from the "hand cut acetate"
and then 1000's of vinlys would be pressed from the metal plate
it's common for vinyl pressing places to cut half a dozen acetates for verification before making the master metal plate
so the pressing engineer probably just ran off 25 copies


i dont know if this process gives less or more lifetime to the record

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:15 PM   #25
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so they simply skipped some steps that are used for mass production, right?

i think it is, but does anyone know if the resulting vinyls are similar to regular vinyls? like, if you would hold a machina II vinyl, would it look/sound just like any other vinyl?

and does this also mean that it's impossible to make more of these vinyls, unless they start over from the beginning of the whole vinyl pressing process?

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:23 PM   #26
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who do you think can make this transfer you're requesting?
i mean, you can ask, and ask again, but who's going to do it?
i'll settle for a flac leak of the agnew 3% fast rip.
c'mon folks for fucks sake! STOP HOARDING.

 
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i know dub plates are only good for about 50-100 listens

they could probably make a metal master from the acetates that they cut
and then reproduce from there.


i wouldn't be surprised if these hand cut non lacquerd acetates were much better then regular vinyls
i am inquiring.

 
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:27 PM   #28
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another question: does the fact that it is hand cut mean that every copy is unique, that there can be differences between copies?

 
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only in the tips and tails of the sides
i doubt the cutting engineer changed his eq/compressor settings as he went.
it's a start/stop procedure once it's set up.

 
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dude three colours what more do you want goddame!

 
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