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Old 06-03-2023, 09:59 PM   #1
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Red face Discograffiti Podcast: DAVID PAJO, PART 2: ZWANICIDE



* Says he thought they were meant to be The New Pumpkins.
* Says Billy was more of the "old fashioned style of rockstar".
* Says he didn't want to think about numbers like it was a job.
* Original idea was meant to be a "meeting of the worlds".
* Says Billy steamrolled over the recording
* Says Billy and Paz were always butting heads because she wasn't intimidated by him.
* Says Billy kicked Paz out and asked Pajo to play bass again -Pajo didn't reply.
* Zwan reunion? Pajo hasn't spoken to Billy since the band ended.

PODCASTER SAYS ZWAN IS BETTER THAN ANYHING BILLY'S DONE SINCE (Fact Check: True, save for FutureEmbrace).

 
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:02 PM   #2
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I think it can be accepted now that Zwan was an amazing opportunity that Billy squandered trying to regain his SP fame as quickly as possible, and completely destroyed the relationships that could have made it happen in the process.

 
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:06 PM   #3
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* Says Billy and Paz were always butting heads because she wasn't intimidated by him.
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Old 06-03-2023, 10:24 PM   #4
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though now that you have taken the initiative to make thread about it, you can be sure a 2nd, more oblivious thread will come about very soon!

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 08:12 AM   #5
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That's not what paz says tho.

Tell me about recording the Zwan record, Mary Star of the Sea.

What can I say? The thing is, I had two very disciplinary parents that were like, “Practice! Do this!” I do fine with dictatorships, in a sense [laughs]. Billy was very controlling, and I was OK with it. It’s like a fetish, like how people like being whipped. It’s not that I like being controlled, but it doesn’t faze me. And I can always learn something out of it.

We wrote about 200 songs. It was something ridiculous like that. We wrote so many songs.

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 08:44 AM   #6
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I can see how both versions of the story are true.

 
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Old 06-04-2023, 11:01 AM   #7
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I would like to hear all 200 of those songs please.

 
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Old 07-19-2023, 11:38 PM   #8
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You left out the part where he outs Billy as a peeping tom.
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