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Old 11-11-2013, 11:47 AM   #1
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Question Quasar - Worst song?

I've heard a lot of people on this board say it is one of Billy's worst songs, if not THE worst.
But I always wondered as to why people would choose it to be worse than for example 'For God and Country' or 'Widow Wake My Mind'.

Is it because he totally ripped of the tone and riffs from SD? Or is it because of another reason? Explain and discuss.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:03 PM   #2
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The boring, uninspired riff, the horrible drum sound, the lame lyrics, and its attempt to ape "Cherub Rock" and "Superchrist" all make it absolutely awful. I'd take the songs you mentioned ("For God and Country" and "Widow Wake My Mind") in an SECOND over "Quasar."

When I saw it live, even Jeff's wank at the end couldn't save it.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:22 PM   #3
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:24 PM   #4
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that's the worst song.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:26 PM   #5
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Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

Widow wake my mind
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:13 PM   #6
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2nd worst SP song.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:39 PM   #7
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honestly, most of teargarden leaves me running back to zeitgeist for at least a few tracks.. god and country isn't bad either (just the album version).. the acoustic one is great imo

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:03 PM   #8
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the only two songs off TBK worth a damn were Song for a Son and Cottonwood Symphony.

You can argue about whether the current line up should even be referred to as SP, but TBK was obviously just billy fucking around in the studio with Kerry and Bjorn. It has as much to do with TBK as TFE or Zwan (probably less than Zwan since that at least had Jimmy).

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:55 PM   #9
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I'm bracing myself for the backlash now...

I don't think Astral Planes is completely horrible. I don't tend to go out of my way to listen to it, and the lyrics are shit. The first EP for TBK is very cringe-worthy overall. Astral Planes fits in fine with the rest of the EP - some of the worst material the band has published.

With that said, I understand what the song seems to be going for with the noisy early 70's ... whatever. Amazingly, I think that the monotony of most of the song makes the "Faraway Lights" break that much more enjoyable. I really like that little part of the song.

And with that said, yes, it is certainly one of the worst songs SP songs. I have hard time placing it below Widow. I'd actually place Because You Are below Astral Planes. OK, now that I've actually written that, maybe just tied. Of course, when I'm taking the time to grade pieces of shit, I think that reflects more poorly on me than on the songs themselves.

Quasar isn't horrible. It fits well in its place on the album. Yes, it's a rip of several better SP songs, but I say that about nearly every song on the album. On the album, Mike doesn't sound as horrible as usual with Quasar. Again, grading pieces of shit.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:15 PM   #10
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Quasar is the worst song

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:43 PM   #11
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Quasar is the worst song
I agree.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:50 PM   #12
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you are all wrong. Nothing particularly wrong with Quasar (any more so than the rest of Oceania). It's in the top 25% of songs released since the reunion. Comparing it to Widow Wake My Wind is fucking laughable, WWMM is so much worse it's not even worth the time it would take me to argue about this. And anyone who thinks Zeitgeist is superior to Oceania was kicked in the head by a horse

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:56 PM   #13
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the only two songs off TBK worth a damn were Song for a Son and Cottonwood Symphony.
I 100% agree with this.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:58 PM   #14
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would have liked to hear Zwan play song for a son

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:59 PM   #15
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at least Oceania has some fucking energy behind it, something this band has been virtually incapable of capturing since they "came back." Widow Wake My Mind is like I still cannot believe Corgan released this song and it happened like 4 years ago

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:51 PM   #16
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And anyone who thinks Zeitgeist is superior to Oceania was kicked in the head by a horse
I think it is better than Oceania... Zeitgeist has much higher highs... I like That's the way, Tarantula, Stellar, Pomp, Ma Belle, Come on lets go much more than anything on Oceania... Stars and Bleeding the Orchid are pretty cool too... The rest of the songs are shit.. But that's still a pretty good chunk of good tunes that I have on my Ipod. I don't revisit anything from Oceania.... Sure the production is nice... But it's just a release with no energy at all... Nice sounding stuff, but nothing that interests me as a music fan or on an emotional level.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:09 PM   #17
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as forgettable as zetgeist was, Jimmy is a fucking beast on that album. too bad it's buried in the mix beneath billy's shitty vocals and poorly structured songs

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:10 PM   #18
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and there can be no question that the teargarden stretch of songs marks the most consistently shitty output of billy since forever

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:13 PM   #19
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Meh... Jimmy still provides some awesome energy. He just locks in with Bill so fucking well. Sounds so tight... Even though the mixing was botched, you can still feel/appreciate the vibe they were going for.

I don't know how people can think that a song like That's the way isn't better than everything on Oceania... I never understood the hate for Lets go either. Jim kills it.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:15 PM   #20
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and there can be no question that the teargarden stretch of songs marks the most consistently shitty output of billy since forever
I think it's all Byrnes fault. Billys used to holing up in the studio and creating with a beast like Jimmy... Now he begins Teargarden and he's trying to get stuff rolling with a kid who's NEVER EVEN RECORDED before... I think a lot of the struggle was just getting something that was merely passable outta Byrne.

What a clusterfuck that whole thing was. I still can't believe he replaced Jimmy with Byrne... What a fucking idiot haha.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:18 PM   #21
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and really, the drumming on Astral planes isn't even merely passable... What a mess.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:32 PM   #22
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That's the Way is very bad except I like how the solo kicks in over the last lyric in that chorus. That's how all of zeitgeist is. Tons of shit with little moments of brilliance peeking through. Oceania is much, much better, and I am not a big fan of Oceania either.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:47 PM   #23
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widow is easily the worst song

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:20 PM   #24
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Yeah Astral Planes is the worst song. Give him credit though he really put out a lot of strong contenders for that title over the last few years.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:22 PM   #25
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And Zeitgeist is better than Oceania, easily.

 
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:08 PM   #26
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I never understood the hate for Lets go either. Jim kills it.
Zeitgeist could probably be up there with MCIS and SD as my favorite album if they muted all the tracks but the drums.

 
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:01 AM   #27
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widow is easily the worst song
it was but there's honestly been quite a few worse songs since then

 
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:12 AM   #28
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widow is easily the worst song
neil young speaks the truth

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it was but there's honestly been quite a few worse songs since then
that's against the laws of physics

 
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:12 AM   #29
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Everyone gather, warm your soul
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it is still unbelievable to me that a professional rock band put out a song this bad

 
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:11 AM   #30
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yeah astral planes is the worst song.

 
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