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03-09-2023, 03:49 PM | #1 |
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FOL Remaster
I know you're probably sick of all these remasters but this track really needed some work. Since I did the vocal down mixes a while back I've noticed a lot of other people doing them. I've got a new Zeitgeist one but there's loads of others out there now that I feel it would be oversaturation to put it out tbh. But haven't seen this one done yet! Last edited by djzap : 03-09-2023 at 04:28 PM. |
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03-09-2023, 05:12 PM | #2 |
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Here's Gossamer too
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03-09-2023, 08:20 PM | #3 |
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Both came out great, especially FOL.
FOL is a decent track. The only thing that hurts it is the "come on and feel our love" vocal. If it had a better hook, it would be a great track. |
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03-09-2023, 09:37 PM | #4 |
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come on and feelalo
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03-09-2023, 10:09 PM | #5 |
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These sound amazing! Thank you!!
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03-09-2023, 11:12 PM | #6 |
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happy honda days
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03-09-2023, 11:59 PM | #7 |
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Your work on these is fantastic. Thank you!
I'm really enjoying Gossamer - on my third listen now. |
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03-10-2023, 04:21 AM | #8 |
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Superchrist remaster/vocal Remix, please, good sir
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03-10-2023, 09:26 PM | #9 |
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It always felt like Billy's meltdown robbed us of an album post Zeitgeist, with these two and a bunch of other songs. It would be amazing if someone could mix and master the best available material to make everything sound like a cohesive unit.
So, yeah, just make it happen. Here is the tracklist. 1. As Rome Burns (with Jimmy) 2. FOL 3. Owata (with Jimmy) 4. GLOW 5. Song for a Son (with Jimmy) 6. No Surrender 7. Superchrist 8. Gossamer 9. 99 Floors Last edited by Morlock : 03-10-2023 at 09:32 PM. |
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03-10-2023, 09:32 PM | #10 |
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You’re gonna incl. Owata but not Tom Tom? A Stitch in Time was good too.
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03-10-2023, 09:38 PM | #11 |
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03-10-2023, 09:38 PM | #12 |
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I liked Astral Planes and The Fellowship
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03-10-2023, 09:39 PM | #13 |
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03-10-2023, 11:08 PM | #14 |
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Jimmy is irrelevant to the quality of a song (see: Atum). Those 2 songs are inherently good regardless of whether he was on them or not.
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03-10-2023, 11:11 PM | #15 |
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thanks for the kind words!
if there's good soundboards of Owata, Song for a Son, and As Rome Burns then I might be able to try something, but really don't wanna spend too much time on live stuff. fighting an uphill battle there in terms of sound quality usually, and crowd noise, and vocal performance. so many factors need to be right to make a nice listenable version (i am generally not a fan of live recordings so maybe thats my bias). main reason I did Gossamer is because it only exists as a live version. the audio splitting tech isn't good enough to put parts from other songs in or entirely remove parts from songs for example, the artefacts just become too much. even in the gossamer mix i'm a bit not happy with the artefacts from having to do so much to it. also none of the soundboards ive heard of as rome burns have like... a good vocal performance haha. always slurred or like jumping on and off the mic making it very hard to keep an even level, or even for the splitting tools to pick up the vocals properly on the vocal stem. really what i want is a nice version of the Spirits in the Sky songs and Backwards Clock Society. Circular Change and Make It Happen are bangers. Lonely Is The Name too... |
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03-11-2023, 12:24 AM | #16 |
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you're doing an excellent job with this
i must also post my strategy, which is learning to enjoy live recordings for the weirdness and shittiness and crowd noise backwards clock society was such a cool name |
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03-11-2023, 05:28 AM | #17 |
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https://archive.org/details/Smashing...2-10d2t09.flac
Reviewer: mr twig - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 13, 2010 Subject: best silverfuck ever smoking show and I can't even begin to describe how amazing this silverfuck is this version deserves a remaster |
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03-11-2023, 09:56 AM | #18 | |
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The Chris Isaak show as a good version of Owata with Jimmy, and I am happy for As Rome Burns to sound fucked up and simply going for energy. The other tracks can be found on If It All Goes Wrong. This is the best As Rome Burn I can find: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4O1EmXQuIo |
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03-11-2023, 10:10 AM | #19 |
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True, Billy wrote good music without Jimmy, and poor music with him. I like Tom Tom. But Jimmy excels, while Mikey lacks the fludity I appreciate about the Pumpkins.
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03-11-2023, 10:13 AM | #20 | |
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03-11-2023, 11:41 AM | #21 | |
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03-11-2023, 12:47 PM | #22 |
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FOL is a pretty shit song and no remastering will fix that but thanx 4 ur efforts n e wayz
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03-12-2023, 11:58 AM | #23 |
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Working on a version of As Rome Burns and its sounding incredible. Will share soon.
Also updated my Gossamer and have been able to eliminate some sound quality issues in it, sounding a lot better now. Same arrangement. Also going to see what I can do with this session: https://archive.org/details/tsp2007-...10.xm.t08.flac its well recorded but seems to be in pretty low resolution so may not be able to do much edit: going by this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5a3dTGtY8pE there seems to be higher quality versions existing. does anyone here have them to share with me? In a moment of madness I've ordered Chris Isaak Hour DVDs from eBay to get the highest quality audio I can of that session. Great versions on that of some songs that it would be great to remaster. Last edited by djzap : 03-12-2023 at 12:12 PM. |
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03-12-2023, 03:06 PM | #24 |
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03-12-2023, 03:09 PM | #25 |
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Zeitgeist should have been the 5 best songs and a 30 minute version of Gossamer.
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03-12-2023, 03:12 PM | #26 | |
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I'd love to make a full comp of songs from that era. March Hare, Owatta, 99 floors, as rome burns, etc etc etc |
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03-13-2023, 05:58 PM | #27 | |
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As much as Baldilocks keeps trying to destroy the bands history, it's great that there's people out there, like you, trying their best to preserve it. |
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03-13-2023, 06:52 PM | #28 |
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i admit it's actually a bit of a selfish endeavour, but i am glad to be able to share the results with other fans when i can! it does make it feel more worthwhile and like there is a point rather than 'why am i spending so much time working on someone else's album' haha
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03-14-2023, 12:39 AM | #29 | |
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7 Shades of Black Tarantula Thats the Way Neverlost Gossamer Stellar Make flood the producer and this is a pretty audacious comeback record and not even that corny. Last edited by LoveIsSuicide42 : 03-14-2023 at 01:13 AM. |
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03-14-2023, 02:54 AM | #30 |
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Tarantulla
That's the Way Ma Belle Stellar Bring the Light Gossamer |
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