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Old 09-23-2022, 06:54 AM   #391
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Billy is old and doesn't give a fuck anymore. Music is nothing more than another hobby to him. The end.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 07:09 AM   #392
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I think you're right here. There is no secret missing ingredient to explain Billy's inability to write a decent song any more. He just lost it and that's it.

I distinctly remember when Zeitgeist came out and everyone here was shitting on it mercilessly. A common narrative at the time was that Billy needed Iha's input and without him the Pumpkins magic was lost. Well, Zeitgeist had many problems but it absolutely shits all over Shiny and Cyr. So much for Iha's return. If D'Arcy was back in the fold I doubt it would change anything, because the sad fact is that Billy has slowly lost his creative spark over the past few decades.
Iha hasnít returned. He and Jimmy turn up for the Billy cheques.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 10:10 AM   #393
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He's releasing 43 songs. The b sides are part of them album now.
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this goes

goes where?

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 10:29 AM   #394
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If a six week no-album-to-promote arena tour with a tired opener, wrapping up right before the holidays isn’t a cash grab, I don’t know what is. Hopefully the checks from live nation clear before Christmas

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 10:39 AM   #395
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Billy is old and doesn't give a fuck anymore. Music is nothing more than another hobby to him. The end.
Billy is old and doesn't give a fuck anymore. Music is nothing more than another hobby sustainable business to him. The end.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:00 AM   #396
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That can't be true. I'm sure there's better ways for him to make money than releasing 20+ song albums every year that no one buys.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:09 AM   #397
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Atum's limited edition is priced at 499, limited to 1333 numbered copies. That makes $665,167 for a pre-order business model. Worth a try innit

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:27 AM   #398
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What would Billy have to do to earn some serious wedge? Even if he made a classic sounding SP album, albums don't sell enough anymore to make that kind of money.

He can't do a "reunion" tour, as he's already done that and they are touring now as the "reformed" band. Bringing D'Arcy back would hardly result in thousands of ticket sales at this stage.

No, all he do is carry on and put out what he records and we have to presume the money he makes from the current tours is enough to keep him going, that and his back royalties and whatever money he made / invested in the 90s (which was probably an awful lot).

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:55 AM   #399
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Atum's limited edition is priced at 499, limited to 1333 numbered copies. That makes $665,167 for a pre-order business model. Worth a try innit
WPC personally is coming out with less than $100k from that right ? I could make more by selling dogs.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 12:02 PM   #400
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lol 100k? u think it's gonna be be shared equally between all the members?

Stay away from the larger breeds, bud. they'll eat you alive

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 12:03 PM   #401
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No, all he do is carry on and put out what he records and we have to presume the money he makes from the current tours is enough to keep him going, that and his back royalties and whatever money he made / invested in the 90s (which was probably an awful lot).
He could spend a lot less time and effort doing it.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 12:36 PM   #402
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Yes but he obviously needs to keep doing it in order to make money. Perhaps his funds are tied up in such a way that he needs a regular income stream.

But why he doesn't go direct to consumer with the likes of Bandcamp is beyond me.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 01:29 PM   #403
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I'm seeing GLOW, Solara, and Feelalo

Should I go onto page 4?

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 01:31 PM   #404
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I'm seeing GLOW, Solara, and Feelalo

Should I go onto page 4?
It sounds like Solara, yeah. The music video is worth watching if for no other reason than to see Billy looking like a bald pennywise, as one user put it

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 01:33 PM   #405
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Isn’t it clear now that arena tours every few years are part of Billy’s income plan now?

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 01:36 PM   #406
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ok I went from page 1 to 4 then said fuck this and worked backwards from 14 to 10. I give up. Why aren't you degenerates committing felonies anymore so I can listen to stolen music?

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 01:37 PM   #407
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It sounds like Solara, yeah. The music video is worth watching if for no other reason than to see Billy looking like a bald pennywise, as one user put it
WHERE IS THE LEAK

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:00 PM   #408
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Bill lost the magic and doesnt work on songs as he did in the 90s....
Just writes some songs and releases them. Fukn sad machines would buy anything for any price.
Dead dad rock

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:09 PM   #409
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did you guys really generate 14 pages of this?

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:10 PM   #410
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fuckin'

thing

sucks!






..............................Hooray!

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:13 PM   #411
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WHERE IS THE LEAK
What are you looking for? Are you saying you just want to hear Beguiled? Honey, it's on Spotify. It's on YouTube. It was officially released days ago. Please take a deep breath, sit down if you aren't already, try to relax your shoulders and jaw. It's all okay. Everything is okay. You're safe.


 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:14 PM   #412
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ok I went from page 1 to 4 then said fuck this and worked backwards from 14 to 10. I give up. Why aren't you degenerates committing felonies anymore so I can listen to stolen music?
Edit: nvm Topley posted it

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:16 PM   #413
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Walter wants the album

he's a next-level masochist and simply wants the whole 33-track behemoth immediately from the group who brought you Beguiled & thought it would be a good idea to record many, many more tracks presumably along the same lines, production & songwriting quality of Beguiled

let 'em have it, i say!

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:17 PM   #414
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you know what, fuck it

i'm going to b like the hero who broke into Wretzky's house once upon a time & stole Mashed Potatoes

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:21 PM   #415
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Walter White is more of a CCR guy I think. I can see Jane (Jesse’s girlfriend) listening to SP though.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:23 PM   #416
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might be a little difficult for her to do that, considering, you know...

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:25 PM   #417
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Yeah well she did when she was alive damn it.

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:26 PM   #418
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so, turns out D'arcy Wretzky is not in the Smashing Pumpkins any more - who woulda thought???

so i will not be breaking into her home tonight to steal this record

the mission shifts now to someone willing to break & enter the Corgan/Mode household and I will not be that guy

 
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:26 PM   #419
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Old 09-23-2022, 02:32 PM   #420
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BC: RESTORE THE FAITH!

Net4ya: No.

 
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