If you were emperor of the world, what would you make the legal age of consent?

[Elphenor]

What?

I've never forced Sex on a women. Rape Culture.

Every time I've had sex it was pretty much because the girl jumped on me. I've never even initiated a kiss

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

PM me about it if you are so concerned.

Nope. Out here. In public. Where you can be held accountable for your answer. Prove that you aren't a coward. Just answer the question and I swear that's the end of it in this thread at least.

I'm not asking about civil and legal rights, i'm not asking about law or society.

I'm asking you an ethical, yes or no question.

Do gay people deserve the same quality of life as you, yes or no?

[Sonic Johnny]

It does matter how you answer me. Like I said once you post me an answer, i'll leave it alone. You really are scared to answer the question aren't you?

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

it doesn't matter how i answer you, SJ. you'll turn what I say into something I'm not saying.

http://d1lalstwiwz2br.cloudfront.net...php6Pba3k.jpeg

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

What?

I've never forced Sex on a women. Rape Culture.

Every time I've had sex it was pretty much because the girl jumped on me. I've never even initiated a kiss

I'm not saying you did. But you mentioned how there was sexual double standards when it came to guys and girls... It's because a guy can pressure sex on a women and even get her to agree to it but a women can't logistically pressure a guy to get a boner and to have sex with her.

It reminds me of that highly publicized court case when a gorgeous 24 year old teacher was taken to court for having sexual relations with a 14 year old student... She pretty much came outta the whole ordeal with only a slap on the wrist which left a lot of people outraged.

http://www.alaskareport.com/images1207/debra_lafave.jpg

Thats the teacher above

I dunno, I know these situations are all about the harm it inflicts on a victims mental state, but I know for a fact for me personally that when I was 14 I'd have been absolutely ecstatic to have sex with that women.

[Sonic Johnny]

You're not willing to answer the question because you know it would involve either contradicting you religion or admitting that you're a bigot. If you had a position that was defensible, you would have no qualms with answering an yes or no ethical question. If you cannot do that, your standpoint is rendered null and void and you concede your position as indefensible.

[Sonic Johnny]

If you give me a straight answer to an unambiguous question, how can I twist it?

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Some seriously stupid and sexist shit

Yes a women can pressure a guy to have sex with her and that's exactly what happened and I regret it because nobody likes being used regardless of gender

[Elphenor]

"I'd be stoked to be statutorily raped by my teacher fuck yeah *high five*"

[fuzzyroes]

Hey, that's just me personally. I'm not condoning it whatsoever. Merely just expressing that I could personally understand the mindset that the legal system was coming from in that particular case... In all aspects it was the wrong decision... But as a male, I can understand where they were coming from.

[Elphenor]

Like, Fuzzy, bro. When we're talking about young girls being taken advantage of by older men we're not talking about forced intercourse.

[fuzzyroes]

Like I had a 14 year old buddy who legitimately had sex with a pretty 21 year old girl and he would brag about that CONSTANTLY. He was like a legend amongst us fools because of it... Infact, the guy still brags about it to this day!

Yes looking at it through the eyes of an adult, it's FUCKED UP. But it most certainly didn't harm him any.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Like, Fuzzy, bro. When we're talking about young girls being taken advantage of by older men we're not talking about forced intercourse.

I know, but it's likely easy enough for an older guy to talk a young girl into anything... And if they're not really into it, the creepy guy likely wouldn't give a fuck and go for it anyways.

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

women can't logistically pressure a guy to get a boner and to have sex with her.

You realize this is false though right?

[pavementtune]

"it didn't harm him in any way" - but as a guy around 30? he is still "bragging" about having sex at 14 with a 21-year-old.
so was he braindead since he was born or that he develop that later? that might be important to figure out if it "harmed him in any way."

[Elphenor]

[Elphenor]

Nicceee

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

You realize this is false though right?

It's not really though... Sure maybe some insecure, loser guy would just have sex with a women out of pity due to the pressure she's putting on him or something.

But if you wanna look at cases where sexual advantage has taken place the violator is nearly 99.9% of the time the guy... It's because a guy can take advantage of a girl in a state of disarray, get her to "agree "to something in her fucked up mindstate and see that as grounds for: "just going for it"...

You see the difference don't you?

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

"it didn't harm him in any way" - but as a guy around 30? he is still "bragging" about having sex at 14 with a 21-year-old.
so was he braindead since he was born or that he develop that later? that might be important to figure out if it "harmed him in any way."

A lot of guys have their "moments of glory" where they strike hot with someone way outta their league... It's not unusual to mention it years later.

[pavementtune]

"insecure loser guy" - itt fuzzy tries to shame elph for having been fucked over by an older woman. impressive.

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

A lot of guys have their "moments of glory" where they strike hot with someone way outta their league... It's not unusual to mention it years later.

1: "out of their league" - 14 year old boy, 21 year old woman. that is not what "out of their league" means

2: it is usual for completely insecure morons to mention whatever sexual stories by BRAGGING about it, 15 damn years later. get real.

"moment of glory" - coming from a, what are you (on paper), 29? - I want to puke in your face.

[fuzzyroes]

We're talking close friends here

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

we're gonna have equality inside a decade.

ahahahahah no we aren't

[fuzzyroes]

But yes, sorry that I don't have any pity for a grown man, 18 year old being hurt by a 23 year old women that he chose to have sex with... That's the pains of romance... Not everyones looking for the same thing in their love-life.

No use bitching about it 2 years later.

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

that would involve me having to answer you. but i know my answer, and i have a good idea what you would say about it, because we've been through this more than once. what you're doing is trying to present a fair, unambiguous question - but what you're in reality doing is trying to set up parameters to nail my argument on your own terms. the problem is that i don't accept your terms to begin with. so forget it. we both know it isn't going to go anywhere.

If by "my terms" you mean "basic morality" then I GUESS so

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

But yes, sorry that I don't have any pity for a grown man, 18 year old being hurt by a 23 year old women that he chose to have sex with... That's the pains of romance... Not everyones looking for the same thing in their love-life.

No use bitching about it 2 years later.

I don't pretend to not be a loser, but it's your complete display of sexism that's offensive here

[fuzzyroes]

Sorry man, that's just reality. Sexual predators are 99.9% men... Sure a guy can be taken for a fool and taken advantage of... and yes, that hurts... But let's not pretend that it's the same thing as a guy taking advantage of a women.

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

But let's not pretend that it's the same thing as a guy taking advantage of a women.

It is though

[Elphenor]

As if Men are the only ones that would ever like to just have sex with someone they find attractive

[Trotskilicious]

this thread was practically unreadable before we started hearing from elphenor

[Elphenor]

As in "already" unreadable and now we have this boring Elph shit?