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Old 10-03-2011, 01:35 PM   #1
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This isn't going to be a gigantic cry for help, but I have depression, which is why I've neglected to post in my recent thread, I've had depression for years, I also think I have bipolar.

I had ADHD as a young child, I grew out of this by the time I was ten, can Ritalin trigger suicidal thoughts and/or depression?

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:37 PM   #2
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I mean if you take Ritalin for a long time, I remember having suicidal thoughts as early as eight years old and that was when I was using Ritalin for my ADHD.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 01:44 PM   #3
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14 year old depressed kid on netphoria.


I think I have an idea as to how this saga is going to inevitably end.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:04 PM   #4
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fuck you banana, i hope agenda suicide and charmbag are proud for supporting this humongous piece of shit. there are a bunch of posters here who have been suffering from mental illness but the good news for you rottenugly is that manic depression can be treated quite decently, the same can be said for ADHD (which i guess you're aware of already).

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:33 PM   #5
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fuck you banana, i hope agenda suicide and charmbag are proud for supporting this humongous piece of shit.
I don't get it. when did you get so thin-skinned?

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:07 PM   #6
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It is important that you start taking medication/medications to treat your illness however, i would strongly advice against just going to therapy.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:13 PM   #7
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fuck you banana, i hope agenda suicide and charmbag are proud for supporting this humongous piece of shit.
You're expending way too much energy over this shit. Give it a rest.
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It is important that you start taking medication/medications to treat your illness however, i would strongly advice against just going to therapy.
Yes, clearly the answer is to throw medication at the problem. I'm so sick of people with this mind set. Therapy is a good tool to figure out what the root of the problem is and if medication is a good option to look into. Not everyone needs medication to solve their problems, but if you are going down that route, you sure as hell don't need to start popping pills with out having done in depth research as to what is best for yourself.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:36 PM   #8
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Yes, clearly the answer is to throw medication at the problem. I'm so sick of people with this mind set.
yeah i'm sure since you don't have any mental illnesses you'd know all about it

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:15 PM   #9
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yeah i'm sure since you don't have any mental illnesses you'd know all about it
I know that medication is abused too often in this country. I find nothing wrong with it when the proper steps are taken. It is scary knowing there are general practitioners that will write a perscription simply because someone walks in and says they think they're bipolar. Just because I don't have issues myself does not mean I don't know anything about the topic. When your family and close friends deal with problems, you're a bit clued in on what's going on.
I'm simply saying you don't need to jump to medication as the first step.

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Old 10-03-2011, 06:50 PM   #10
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I know that medication is abused too often in this country. I find nothing wrong with it when the proper steps are taken. It is scary knowing there are general practitioners that will write a perscription simply because someone walks in and says they think they're bipolar. Just because I don't have issues myself does not mean I don't know anything about the topic. When your family and close friends deal with problems, you're a bit clued in on what's going on.
I'm simply saying you don't need to jump to medication as the first step.
I don't believe ANY psych meds should be given out by PCPs except (possibly) emergency once-in-a-while benzodiazepines

Juvenile Bipolar is definitely a thing, and one that needs meds most likely if it is effecting your life (rottenugly) - but only a psychiatrist or psychologist should be diagnosing and treating any mental or emotional issues. Especially in kids, teenagers and young adults.

So go see a therapist, tell them what's going on and see if they recommend meds, therapy, or both. Also things like dietary choices should be looked into, you should also get a check up and some routine blood tests done to check for other things causing depression (like hypothyroidism).

Feel better dude

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Old 10-03-2011, 10:23 PM   #11
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I know that medication is abused too often in this country.
How do you know that?

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The only reason you'd think that is because you have no concept of what bipolar disorder is.

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Just because I don't have issues myself does not mean I don't know anything about the topic.
I dunno it kind of seems like you're operating from the stance of someone who thinks an individual has full control over their consciousness, which isn't even true for mentally "healthy" people.

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I'm simply saying you don't need to jump to medication as the first step.
If you have a true neurological disorder then medication is a very important component to help regulate your brain chemistry. If you're sad because something bad happened to you, you don't need prozac.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:19 PM   #12
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Not everyone needs medication to solve their problems, but if you are going down that route, you sure as hell don't need to start popping pills with out having done in depth research as to what is best for yourself.
I know you're not really hating but unless you're psychotic (and even then) medication doesn't solve any of your problems. It just makes it easier to deal with the problems, you know maybe to close to a normal level, instead of everything being fucking impossible because you have no energy at all and constantly thinking of suicide or whatever the out of control symptom may be...

At least for us neurotics - therapy is the real treatment.

BTW just because we're on this topic, I just got back from my psychiatrist and my meds have been stable now for about five months which I never ever thought would happen. I was pretty much a hopeless case to many people... probably still am... but things can totally get better and I appreciate that I feel better than I used to even if I have a ways to go to 'mild/no symptoms'

And I have other mental issues but whatever my mood is better and I appreciate it

So um, I guess I'm a good case of medication working? So far? But I still advise much caution.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:10 PM   #13
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also major depressive disorder can be treated well by numerous medications, there are some boarders here who are on medication for this and it's given them the chance to live good lives.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:18 PM   #14
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dean r koontz also suffers from the mental illness known as being a geenz.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:19 PM   #15
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do not go off the ritalin just because you think it might cause suicidal ideation. i looked at the list of side effects and there is stuff like anxiety and dysphoria there, but there is a risk that if you stop taking the medication, things get even worse for you and you'll lose impulse control. a better road is to continue with the ritalin and try some nice new antidepressant with few side effects and see how that goes.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:33 PM   #16
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get a kitten 2

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:35 PM   #17
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and if people come in and start talking about "u got to face reality bro and start thinking differently" or "i know of this alternative oitment that works great for depression", don't listen. some ppl on this very board have refused to take medications for years and years and it only made them lamer than they could have been.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:45 PM   #18
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u got to face reality bro and start thinking differently also i know of this alternative ointment that works great for depression

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:40 PM   #19
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No.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:40 PM   #20
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Honestly though I wouldn't listen to any suggestions from dean. That guy seems seriously mentally screwed up. You're young, it's still possible for you to avoid the mess of a person he's become.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:16 PM   #21
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i'm just trying to help the guy. if you want him to continue to live in pain, that's your trip man.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 08:46 PM   #22
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i'm just trying to help the guy. if you want him to continue to live in pain, that's your trip man.
>Trying to help.


Yes, because insulting me for the past few days is trying to "help", you've done nothing but made my day a living hell because you think it's funny to make people feel like shit for your own personal gain.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:31 PM   #23
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>Trying to help.


Yes, because insulting me for the past few days is trying to "help", you've done nothing but made my day a living hell because you think it's funny to make people feel like shit for your own personal gain.
i'm coaching you into becoming a man.

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Old 10-03-2011, 04:21 PM   #24
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I never said anything about being against helping him. Strongly advising against therapy is complete bull shit. BUT HEY, lets take the word of random people on a Smashing Pumpkins board because we're all experts right?
If rottenugly feels like this and he wants to do something about it, then he can go talk to a doctor that specializes in his issue. Plain and simple.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:23 PM   #25
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you dumb bitch i wrote that i was strongly against JUST going to therapy.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:24 PM   #26
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at least given what i've heard in this case i would recommend medication. there are obviously other situations were therapy is enough and no medication is needed.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:25 PM   #27
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Excuse the piss out of me for misreading your sentence. However, my argument still stands. Let a doctor tell him if medication is good for him.

 
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Old 10-03-2011, 04:35 PM   #28
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Ritalin can DEFINITELY cause suicidal ideation and depression. It's speed. Many if not most SSRIs, SNRIs, DRIs, trycilic anti-depressants etc can cause SI and depression especially in children, teens and young adults (up to 24). It's definitely good that you don't take it anymore if you don't need it.

If your depression is anywhere more than mild and you have any thoughts about suicide ever for more than a few minutes, I would recommend seeing a psychiatrist. I do not think medication is the way to go for teenagers unless depression is severe. But only you know how much you suffer.

I am personally on a few different psychiatric medications for depression and PTSD (etc), and my life has tremendously improved since I've gotten on a combination that has worked for me (which took 3-ish years). But I would definitely go for therapy first, perhaps see a psychologist and see what they think about medication. They can't prescribe personally so they don't have a personal stake in their recommendation. It's impossible to understand how severe your symptoms are over the internet. Again, meds have totally improved my life but I do think they are overprescibed and shouldn't be the first resort especially in teenagers where your brain is still developing.

The important thing is that you are working to improve your life and your symptoms so that you won't live with depression chronically. I wish I fucking started getting good psychiatric help at 14. Hopefully this can happen all through therapy but again if you are suffering you have every right to decide when it's enough to get on medication.

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Old 10-03-2011, 05:03 PM   #29
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what could a 14 year old possibly be depressed about.

 
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what could a 14 year old possibly be depressed about.
boy this is the dumbest fucking thing you've said this week

 
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