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Old 11-27-2022, 05:38 PM   #1
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Default Paz dishes on ZWAN

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...an-1234633247/

looooots of stuff

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 05:55 PM   #2
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“It must have been great to work with Jimmy Chamberlain.

Paz:
He’s such a great drummer! Listen to the snare, and the way he pushes and pulls.””

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 06:17 PM   #3
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The tiptoeing around NDAs is potent there.

Also, fuck Pixies.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 06:19 PM   #4
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Decent article. Thanks for sharing.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 06:28 PM   #5
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Damn. Trashing her in the press (“sex acts in public between band members” quite obviously includes her) the day after her brother committed suicide. And he knew it. That’s some top 10 shittiest billy? Top 5?? That’s terrible

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 06:42 PM   #6
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"On Sept. 8, 1989, the Cure, Love and Rocks, Shelleyan Orphan, and Pixies played to 50,000 fans at L.A.’s Dodger Stadium."

Nice job, Rolling Stone editors.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 07:04 PM   #7
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also, Jimmy Chamberlain

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:03 PM   #8
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At this point, Billy is the sweetest. He’s trying to lure me in, and he’s doing a very good job. I was already learning from him, especially about art.
hearing about his machinations like this is really freaky

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:06 PM   #9
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Jimmy was like wind. He was flowing in this other way that changes the way you play. He’ll push the beat. It’s more like jazz.
'jimmy was like wind' is fucking beautiful. when he does those silky ride patterns...

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Old 11-27-2022, 08:07 PM   #10
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She definitely talks about him like he was an ex-boyfriend. Pajo moved in on his territory and Billy ragequit Zwan. Second time he lost the girl to an Asian guitarist.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:09 PM   #11
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Billy was very controlling, and I was OK with it. It’s like a fetish, like how people like being whipped. It’s not that I like being controlled, but it doesn’t faze me.
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I’m going to just be blunt: If anyone is in the ring with Billy Corgan, it’s Billy Corgan. He’s been competing with himself since Siamese Dream came out. It was really affecting him. He was able to sell 16 million records in the CD era. Now we’re getting into another era. This era is not about that.
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:10 PM   #12
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She definitely talks about him like he was an ex-boyfriend. Pajo moved in on his territory and Billy ragequit Zwan. Second time he lost the girl to an Asian guitarist.
does chloe play guitar

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 08:21 PM   #13
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Ooff

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Old 11-27-2022, 09:16 PM   #14
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Pajo was already married back then, and sleeping with Bjorn Thorsrud. I always thought that what Billy meant by "sex acts between band members".

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 09:47 PM   #15
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LOL at James telling her not to join Zwan.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 09:58 PM   #16
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Which personality disorders does b0lly have?

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 10:10 PM   #17
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Narcissistic personality disorder:
Common symptoms - grandiosity, callous and unemotional traits, disregard for others' feelings, excessive need for admiration, or social isolation

and a sprinkle of borderline

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 10:13 PM   #18
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Pajo was already married back then, and sleeping with Bjorn Thorsrud. I always thought that what Billy meant by "sex acts between band members".
Read (on here I think) that she gave pajo a handie under a table at a bar in Spain, from i think it was a gearslutz thread by someone connected to the band anybody remember?

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 10:55 PM   #19
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Paz is so freakin hot!

I've never had a problem with Billy's sideshow antics, but the death of her brother and dragging her name on the same day is a little much. What a cunt.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 11:12 PM   #20
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A friend of mine that recorded the last pixies album heard that coloring book story from paz.. except in the version he told me, she was reading said book outside the cafe, billy saw her, struck up a friendly conversation, then asked "where'd you get that book?" "oh i just bought it." "that looks like the exact copy i sold and i regret it.. i want it back. can i have it?" she says sure gives it to him then he walks away. she also talked about how controlling he was in the studio, to which my friend said "it's no different than how J mascis or Frank Black behaves in the studio." etc etc.

also some of you project some real weird shit onto Corgan. and that's not a defense of corgan, just some of our obsessions here run deep and dark.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 11:17 PM   #21
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Also this quote from her describes his entire career post 1997--

"I’m going to just be blunt: If anyone is in the ring with Billy Corgan, it’s Billy Corgan. He’s been competing with himself since Siamese Dream came out. It was really affecting him. He was able to sell 16 million records in the CD era. Now we’re getting into another era. This era is not about that."

on point.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 11:28 PM   #22
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Your friend sounds like he got the story wrong. That makes no sense. She said she doesn’t have the book in the interview. It sounds like he kept the book and was playing dumb as to where it was.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 11:31 PM   #23
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Your friend sounds like he got the story wrong. That makes no sense. She said she doesn’t have the book in the interview. It sounds like he kept the book and was playing dumb as to where it was.
yeah, duh. i didn't say my friend was right. just interesting how these stories can change when traveling through other people.

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 11:41 PM   #24
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Pajo was already married back then, and sleeping with Bjorn Thorsrud. I always thought that what Billy meant by "sex acts between band members".
Whut

 
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Old 11-27-2022, 11:44 PM   #25
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I thought people had figured out that bjorn was banging linda at that time.

 
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:08 AM   #26
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It's amazing how 2 people read something and have totally different takes. Sounds like she loved their time together and that's it.

 
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:19 AM   #27
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Man, at this point, James really has to be in it just for the money right? There’s no way 17 years after he left the pumpkins for Billy being an asshole, he suddenly decided he missed him, I’m guessing.

Is there any indication at all that James was in the studio for Atum?

Paz seems cool. Too bad she fell for a dingus like Pajo

 
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:32 AM   #28
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Man, at this point, James really has to be in it just for the money right? There’s no way 17 years after he left the pumpkins for Billy being an asshole, he suddenly decided he missed him, I’m guessing.

Is there any indication at all that James was in the studio for Atum?

Paz seems cool. Too bad she fell for a dingus like Pajo
You don't think people can reconcile after a bad falling out and not speaking for a long time?

 
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:43 AM   #29
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It's amazing how 2 people read something and have totally different takes. Sounds like she loved their time together and that's it.
Did you read the whole interview? She didn’t make it sound like it was all roses

 
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:56 AM   #30
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LOL at James telling her not to join Zwan.
imagine not taking james yoshinobu iha's advice about something

 
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