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Old 03-30-2021, 12:05 PM   #3811
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I remember around the release of Oceania, WPC talked about not liking Jeffs guitar playing. He wanted him to develop a style more to his liking so gave him homework of listening very carefully to George Harrison and Neil Young. He added that "It didn't really work".
Please find that interview, it'd be so much fun.

Jeff is basically the humble James Billy always wanted to have by his side. Someone who's conscious enough of the lucrative opportunity and be willing to put up with all the shit he's going to throw at him for no reason.

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 12:20 PM   #3812
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Please find that interview, it'd be so much fun.

Jeff is basically the humble James Billy always wanted to have by his side. Someone who's conscious enough of the lucrative opportunity and be willing to put up with all the shit he's going to throw at him for no reason.
I've tried but it turns out that WPC mentions Neil Young several times nearly every time he's interviewed

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 12:23 PM   #3813
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Jeff mentions it here https://www.musicradar.com/news/guit...s-sound-565872 but I can't find the WPC interview sorry

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 01:54 PM   #3814
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Not sure if he's said anything about Nicole ever.
he called her a dyke and said all gays should die.

but seriously: he asked her to keep her personal life private and away from the public eye, he did not want people to find out that SP had a gay member.

billy can truly be disgusting sometimes.

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 01:54 PM   #3815
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Lol
What is that even supposed to mean?

At least we've come full circle. The same control freak who centralizes everything ALSO expects you to question his narrative. Which will eventually get you fired, anyway.
so mr.billy is full of shit. as usual. I bet he thinks it's called 'playing the heel'

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 02:21 PM   #3816
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I wonder if that's one of the reasons why Billy got angry at him. Vasily wished Billy happy birthday on Instagram and he didn't say anything, but was sharing everybody else's birthday posts.

haha this is such a classic bill thing to do. what a jerk

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 02:27 PM   #3817
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Jeff mentions it here https://www.musicradar.com/news/guit...s-sound-565872 but I can't find the WPC interview sorry
I don't remember Billy saying hi didn't like Jeff's style at all, but I do remember him saying Jeff recorded a lot of stuff for Oceania that got axed because he didn't think it was the right direction. It was like he was fire against James because he also mentioned that Jeff was cool about that and very supportive of him.

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 05:23 PM   #3818
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he asked her to keep her personal life private and away from the public eye, he did not want people to find out that SP had a gay member.
Never heard this before. I did hear rumors that Nicole's partner at the time was sort of Yoko Onoing the place, but again just rumors.

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:05 PM   #3819
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he called her a dyke and said all gays should die.

but seriously: he asked her to keep her personal life private and away from the public eye, he did not want people to find out that SP had a gay member.

billy can truly be disgusting sometimes.
Sounds like complete bullshit, tbh. He could have easily picked up someone else to play bass, anyway.

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:27 PM   #3820
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Never heard this before. I did hear rumors that Nicole's partner at the time was sort of Yoko Onoing the place, but again just rumors.
Care to elaborate? A Billy vs imaginary Yoko beef, what an age to live.

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 07:38 PM   #3821
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Sounds like complete bullshit, tbh. He could have easily picked up someone else to play bass, anyway.
he did.

mike was garbage - and dismissed with reason.
Nicole was great. why did she leave? was any statement ever made?
ginger left to "start a family"...
the keyboard players were never members.

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 07:47 PM   #3822
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of course listening to gish stuff, jimmy's parts are embarrassing. he was just trying to develop what corgan was giving him.

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:10 PM   #3823
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He also talked about it on Instagram. he said the disagreements were both professional and personal.
EG: MONEY

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:11 PM   #3824
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I will say the one positive thing post-2000 SP did was get me into The Seeds

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:12 PM   #3825
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But it's clear Vasily isn't contributing his artwork for no reason at all and it's clear BC isn't getting it for no reason at all

Fuck you Billy

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:13 PM   #3826
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Just reissue the fucking thing in blank sleeves you colossal iditiot

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:15 PM   #3827
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I asked Vasily on IG and he said Billy has never contacted him about the Machina reissue. Could just be fibbing, who knows?

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:20 PM   #3828
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If I were Vasily (and that was true) this would bum me out

What a load of shit

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:21 PM   #3829
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William Patrick "Dollar Tree" Corgan

 
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Old 03-30-2021, 08:21 PM   #3830
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lolol the dollar tree of mercury

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 02:51 AM   #3831
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this is the buck i've been spending my whole life

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 03:19 AM   #3832
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Old 03-31-2021, 05:32 AM   #3833
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of course listening to gish stuff, jimmy's parts are embarrassing. he was just trying to develop what corgan was giving him.
Embarrassing? Dafuq. Jimís drumming on Gish is incredible because he was improvising more and not holding back like Corgan made him do on Siamese Dream.

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 06:49 AM   #3834
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Embarrassing? Dafuq. Jimís drumming on Gish is incredible because he was improvising more and not holding back like Corgan made him do on Siamese Dream.
Yeah because the percussion on Siamese Dream is so fucking bad. Jesus Christ this forum.

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 06:50 AM   #3835
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he did.

mike was garbage - and dismissed with reason.
Nicole was great. why did she leave? was any statement ever made?
ginger left to "start a family"...
the keyboard players were never members.
Yeah a 20 year old playing at Mike's level was "garbage." Jesus Christ what the fuck is your deal? All these posts and what are you? Fucking shit. Absolute shit.

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 06:51 AM   #3836
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he called her a dyke and said all gays should die.

but seriously: he asked her to keep her personal life private and away from the public eye, he did not want people to find out that SP had a gay member.

billy can truly be disgusting sometimes.
Got a link to this story or are you just talking out your ass as usual?

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 07:47 AM   #3837
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After firing Mike & Nicole he said he wasn't happy with the vibe and "nicey niceness",
so the new zwan members too immoral = fuck off
new SP members too nice = fuck off
Billy really knows what he wants...


Vasily was probably asked to PAY to have his artwork used. cuz without SP he'd be a nobody. Billy is king and everything he touches is gold.


and finally
fuck you disco jon. you know nothing about this band. NOTHING.

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 08:25 AM   #3838
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so the new zwan members too immoral = fuck off
new SP members too nice = fuck off
Billy really knows what he wants...


Vasily was probably asked to PAY to have his artwork used. cuz without SP he'd be a nobody. Billy is king and everything he touches is gold.


and finally
fuck you disco jon. you know nothing about this band. NOTHING.
LOL god you're such a coward. Such a fucking wimp. And you can't even quote me. LOL

Trash like you are why fans like me from '91 think you and this forum are such a fucking joke.

Grow up. Move on. Get some help.

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 08:55 AM   #3839
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of course listening to gish stuff, jimmy's parts are embarrassing. he was just trying to develop what corgan was giving him.

 
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Old 03-31-2021, 08:59 AM   #3840
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I'm a fan from the way back in the polka party days, 1991 is practically a spring chicken Johnny come lately casual fan who heard rat in a cage on the radio at their gas station job

 
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