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Old 06-04-2007, 02:41 AM   #1
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Default Does "starz" remind anyone of BWBW?

The bassline is REALLY similar in the first part of it especially.....

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:43 AM   #2
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Agreed, but Starz is superior in every way.

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:45 AM   #3
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when you hear it on the album...you will disagree

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:45 AM   #4
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BWBW has never been good live to me, Starz is tasty, also more mellow and spacey.

For some reason the first song I thought of when I heard Starz was "We are all made of Stars" by Moby, which sucks. I like some Moby, but only the Hymn, GMOTFOTW, etc type stuff.

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:49 AM   #5
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Elaborate on that Kahlo, for Christ's sake. I hear that the studio version isn't as heavy, and that its fuzzier and Billy's vocals are layered during the harmonies, but how is that a bad thing? Heavy doesn't always = better imo

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:16 AM   #6
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If anything I'd think the album version would be even better than the already great live version...more complexity, perfect vocals, overdubs, etc.

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:18 AM   #7
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It reminds me of some shitty KISS wanna-be song. It's really the weakest song. Though one reviewer of the Zeitgeist album says that Jimmy "owns this song" with this drumming, so I'm interested to hear the album version.

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:25 AM   #8
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BWBW has never been good live to me, Starz is tasty, also more mellow and spacey.

For some reason the first song I thought of when I heard Starz was "We are all made of Stars" by Moby, which sucks. I like some Moby, but only the Hymn, GMOTFOTW, etc type stuff.
I have to agree with you about BWBW. I've had enough of hearing it live, it's the one song of "the classics" that I wish they scrapped; of course this won't happen.

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Old 06-04-2007, 04:21 AM   #9
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Well, to be honest, I though of something a bit more esoteric..

Im sure quite a few of you saw the Unplugged peformance with Pumpkins,
where he talked about songs and played them acousticly..

When he explained the origin of SIYL, he said it began as some "new wavy"
kind of thing, and played a little riff to illustrate.

That riff sounded like the stars intro/verse.

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Old 06-04-2007, 04:23 AM   #10
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Well, to be honest, I though of something a bit more esoteric..

Im sure quite a few of you saw the Unplugged peformance with Pumpkins,
where he talked about songs and played them acousticly..

When he explained the origin of SIYL, he said it began as some "new wavy"
kind of thing, and played a little riff to illustrate.

That riff sounded like the stars intro/verse.

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Old 06-04-2007, 05:10 AM   #11
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Can someone link that off of you tube? I am digging for it at the moment but all I found was GATGC under Vh1 storytellers.

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:31 AM   #12
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Agreed, but Starz is superior in every way.
You can't be serious

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:36 AM   #13
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Elaborate on that Kahlo, for Christ's sake. I hear that the studio version isn't as heavy, and that its fuzzier and Billy's vocals are layered during the harmonies, but how is that a bad thing? Heavy doesn't always = better imo
well when i first heard Starz for the first time I laughed out loud which seems lie a common reaction. Billys intro of 'we are stars' 'we are' 'we are stars' is spoken in a fey, 5 year old girl kind of way... think Zwan at its worst

However, the song make sup for it with some really heavy guitars, and after my initial reaction I Actually think its a great track..the production on it is fantastic

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:43 AM   #14
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:04 AM   #15
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i don't have it to leak.

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:55 AM   #16
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The bassline is indeed very similar. Great song.

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:11 AM   #17
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Billys intro of 'we are stars' 'we are' 'we are stars' is spoken in a fey, 5 year old girl kind of way... think Zwan at its worst

See.. when I hear him say ''We are starz, we are, it makes me happy because it seems like hes comfortable enough again to not take himself too seriously, ala Siamese Dream. I love the implications, and I think it fits really well.

However, the song make sup for it with some really heavy guitars, and after my initial reaction I Actually think its a great track..the production on it is fantastic
Are you saying that the album version of the intro is worse? If that is your only complain then fucking A, the song is going to rock hard. Wonderful to hear that the production is fantastic. If you've heard all of the album, was your first impression, that the entire thing was produced well, or just certain songs?

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:41 AM   #18
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Khalo, from hearing the album, what is your guess to single #3 (I'm assuming along with everyone else that Doomsday Clock is single #2, though that doesn't really add up, because D.D.C and Tarantula are both heavy songs. In the past its been a mix between soft and heavy, not heavy and then heavier, lol) My vote would be either B.t.o or Starz, although nobody seems to think they are ''Radio friendly'' W.t.f does that really mean anyway? He he...

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:04 AM   #19
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starz has always reminded me of ugly, the verse riffs sound practically the same to me except starz is more jagged. listen to them back to back, its hard to miss.

ugly is a better song too

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:06 AM   #20
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Khalo, from hearing the album, what is your guess to single #3 (I'm assuming along with everyone else that Doomsday Clock is single #2, though that doesn't really add up, because D.D.C and Tarantula are both heavy songs. In the past its been a mix between soft and heavy, not heavy and then heavier, lol) My vote would be either B.t.o or Starz, although nobody seems to think they are ''Radio friendly'' W.t.f does that really mean anyway? He he...
in one of the first reviews, someone suggested that's the way as single material.

 
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:11 AM   #21
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when you hear it on the album...you will disagree
explain plz

 
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