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Old 05-14-2022, 03:40 AM   #4741
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Speaking of the Japan LP. People have started receiving them? So…who’s gonna upload a rip of this thing? kthxbai
I'm willing to exchange the japanese rip with the city of angels rip. Get on it, pronto.

 
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Old 05-14-2022, 09:20 AM   #4742
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Melissa's bass sounds terrible
I seem to be partially deaf in whatever part of the sonic spectrum a lot of rock bass occupies, so I have no idea what people are talking about when they say Melissa's bass tone was awful (another factor here is I don't know shit about guitars/basses)

Can someone explain? Like if I plucked a string on D'arcy's bass and then the same string on Melissa's, it would sound different, kind of like a guitar sounds different when you turn a bunch of the dials on the amp or something?

I feel like a ton of people say her tone didn't fit the music, something along those lines—isn't that something Billy would be exacting about? Wouldn't he get her to change her...fuckin'...settings or something, to be closer to D'arcy's? Insist she play a different bass?

I can't imagine this is easy to explain in words as opposed to just hearing it, but if anyone wants to give it a brief go, I'd be grateful

 
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Old 05-14-2022, 09:29 AM   #4743
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For me the difference is Melissa used the bass as a more percussive instrument. Her playing is more “clacky” and apparent in the overall mix, vs Darcy’s more smooth, unobtrusive, rounded sound. Basically creamy pb vs Xtra crunchy

It is a good point that if big willie didn’t like it, he would have done something about it, i imagine he felt it fit with the nu metal sort of element to the machina songs that were emphasized live.

 
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Old 05-14-2022, 10:29 AM   #4744
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I’ve always thought her bass tone and style of play sounded just fine. It actually meshed really well with the cyber metal sound they were going for during the Machina era. Moreover, I really liked her personality on and off stage back in 2000. She seemed like such a stable, approachable, enthusiastic member of the band who really respected the music and the fans.

 
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Old 05-14-2022, 10:30 AM   #4745
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It also seemed like she meshed really well with James.

 
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Old 05-14-2022, 05:05 PM   #4746
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also she's really really hot

 
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Old 05-14-2022, 07:33 PM   #4747
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For me the difference is Melissa used the bass as a more percussive instrument. Her playing is more “clacky” and apparent in the overall mix, vs Darcy’s more smooth, unobtrusive, rounded sound. Basically creamy pb vs Xtra crunchy
Thank you! That's really helpful. With this in mind, I'm gonna relisten to some shows and see if I can make this out at all.

 
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Old 05-14-2022, 08:20 PM   #4748
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but you have to prove to him, because he is Very Virtuous, that you bought the record to get the rip

defeating the purpose almost entirely

it's 2022, digital information should be limitless, open the frontier, etc etc
That’s douchey. Hard to believe people still engage in Dave 4553L1N style hoarding (fuck you Pissed Jeans).

 
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Old 05-14-2022, 11:58 PM   #4749
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Thank you! That's really helpful. With this in mind, I'm gonna relisten to some shows and see if I can make this out at all.
mellisa's tone had the mids and highs brought out a lot more. this is often done to make the bass cut through a mix more, since the higher and easier to hear frequencies are boosted. it will sound a bit harsher, or brighter, more detailed.

it also had a lot of attack, and not much sustain. eg. the initial sound of a note is quite loud and obvious but it decays / fades off fairly fast on held notes.

the old classic sp tone was the opposite of both of those things. dialed down mids and treble, all low end, warm, round, some might say muddy. it had lots of sustain and not much decay, so notes would be more 'present' the entire time they are being played / sounded.

i really like the classic sp bass tone, or at least those parts i described about it above, and i normally go for that sort of sound with my playing. i'd sometimes describe the sustain part of it sort of like an electric organ, where you press and hold a note and it just stays the same - producing an even and constant sound level for as long as you hold it. it gives this 'always present' but 'never in your face' type of vibe. which sits under the classic sp guitar sound really well too.

 
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Old 05-15-2022, 11:16 AM   #4750
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r u talkin' bass 2 me?
she had the kind of bass tone that a person in a 2-piece drums, bass, & vox groups might, where it takes center stage/most of the high & mid-range with no real need on the sonic spectrum for guitars

you can imagine how this might be a problem for our beloved Pump Pumps

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Old 05-15-2022, 11:27 AM   #4751
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Sneaker Pumps*

 
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Old 05-15-2022, 11:28 AM   #4752
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take me down

(CLING CLANG CLING CLINK)

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Old 05-15-2022, 03:16 PM   #4753
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This thread is almost 4 years old

 
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Old 05-15-2022, 04:42 PM   #4754
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This thread is almost 4 years old
You think that's a long time, we've been waiting for this shit for near enough 12... https://www.youtube.com/c/smashingpumpkins/videos

 
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Old 05-15-2022, 09:20 PM   #4755
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You think that's a long time, we've been waiting for this shit for near enough 12... https://www.youtube.com/c/smashingpumpkins/videos
Fun fact this thread was started right around the time my second son was born

And now he’s in prison with kids of his own

 
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:42 PM   #4756
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:44 PM   #4757
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