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Old 01-22-2015, 01:50 AM   #211
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If you have 30k in student debt and you're only making 1500 dollars a month it sounds like you should have gotten a degree that was actually worth a shit and could get you a decent job. You failed at bootstraps.
Have you told your wife this yet

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:51 AM   #212
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i mean fucking seriously

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:51 AM   #213
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Nah, we doin' aight

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:52 AM   #214
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Sold a lot of cars this month huh

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:53 AM   #215
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Oh yeah, I'm empowered and living the dream like everyone else

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:54 AM   #216
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the ones that deserve it tho rite

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:58 AM   #217
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I ain't Tootles man. I grew up with a single mom and lived in shitty one bedroom apartments my whole childhood. You are born into your lot in life and that's just the way it is. I don't fault anyone who can't "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:01 AM   #218
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i just want to mention what it is I do, and i did lowball my monthly take home but i don't want you to know it anyway

I spend my working day helping out cancer patients in poverty get some kind of financial assistance because the government sure as hell doesn't provide it. That's only one aspect of my job. But to you, I'm paid right on target, because I'm a loser who got a degree in history instead of business. Yeah fuck me right? There should be trap degrees.

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:03 AM   #219
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Well that's certainly a noble thing to do. It's probably not by your choice, but you can at least take some pride in knowing you are helping people who need it.

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:03 AM   #220
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It is definitely by my choice, bud.

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:04 AM   #221
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as much as there is one

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:09 AM   #222
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I feel like you need to work on your self esteem a bit. You seem to have an angry and defeatist attitude about things. I never said you were a loser.


 
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:11 AM   #223
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Really the self confessed bipolar neurotic needs to work on his self-esteem? Ya think?

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:13 AM   #224
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I didn't get the memo

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:10 AM   #225
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i don't ever know why i'm still on here being mean

everybody in the middle & lower class needs better pay

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 05:59 AM   #226
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it sounds compassionate but IMO whats generally wrong with that view is job creators need better pay as they're the ones giving those people jobs

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:41 AM   #227
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If your wife is grossing 40k and paying $600 per month in loans she is either doing it wrong or it is totally because of your combined incomes. Fwiw.

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:03 AM   #228
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This is the prevailing wisdom that makes the world tick. This is basic business politics and "ethics."

Ultimately, they see the world in a way that there are a number of skills to master and anyone can do it. If you can't do it, you're not trying. you're lazy. You're stupid. Etc. Their monetary success is a reflection of their "worthiness" as a person, invariably this person is also going to hold themselves above others and be spiteful to them for not "working as hard" as they do.

i'd go so far to say that this is "common sense" these days
Or you just make wrong decisions and blame it on someone else.

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:04 AM   #229
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I ain't Tootles man. I grew up with a single mom and lived in shitty one bedroom apartments my whole childhood. You are born into your lot in life and that's just the way it is. I don't fault anyone who can't "pull themselves up by their bootstraps".
Yup

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:24 PM   #230
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The most important people are business owners and stock holders otherwise why would they make so much more money than anyone else? I can't think of any other explanation for this

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:02 PM   #231
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i just want to mention what it is I do, and i did lowball my monthly take home but i don't want you to know it anyway

I spend my working day helping out cancer patients in poverty get some kind of financial assistance because the government sure as hell doesn't provide it. That's only one aspect of my job. But to you, I'm paid right on target, because I'm a loser who got a degree in history instead of business. Yeah fuck me right? There should be trap degrees.
Serious question trots. Who are you trying to get financial assistance from for these people if not from the government? Who else will give financial assistance to any type of medical patient in poverty. I only know 2 entities. Government and charity. Who is the third party??

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:13 PM   #232
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-most of my grade school teachers were either terrible or were great but also neurotic and unreliable

-i've liked the vast majority of my undergrad teachers so far. they have been enthusiastic and helpful. i can only think of one who i really disliked but it was a bullshit required computer literacy course and he is a programmer so of course he hates having to teach people what RAM means. he let you do your work at home and just drop it off so i barely saw him anyway.

-teachers deserve a good salary. they may not be *heroes* but the good ones really change lives. unfortunately, you cannot pay them based on how much they care.

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:28 PM   #233
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I have a history degree. I'm very lucky to have the job I have now. 25 years after I started working here I wouldn't hire anybody today who had my old resume. Now it's MBA grads and interns straight from other big companies.

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:29 PM   #234
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Serious question trots. Who are you trying to get financial assistance from for these people if not from the government? Who else will give financial assistance to any type of medical patient in poverty. I only know 2 entities. Government and charity. Who is the third party??
you really are an evil fuck!

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:58 PM   #235
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When did i mention a third party

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:58 PM   #236
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Is he trying to play gotcha i dont get it

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:03 PM   #237
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I have a history degree. I'm very lucky to have the job I have now. 25 years after I started working here I wouldn't hire anybody today who had my old resume. Now it's MBA grads and interns straight from other big companies.
Its sad bcause the business always complains of emps having a lack of critical thinking, writing and comm skills but they dont hire ppl with BAs, the majors for exactly those skilks...theres nothing a buisiness degree would teach me that i couldnt learn after six mos on the job but i dont get that chance. Its possibke its because i live in austin

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:14 PM   #238
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One big issue I have is that in business extroverts are valued more than introverts. Extroverts for the most part run everything. And they look for themselves in the people they promote. There's a whole industry of bogus organization improvement crap that business leaders waste money on. Tho gs like team building programs, org hierarchy, etc that are all focused on trying to make everyone extroverts. Even the modern "open office" is designed around the assumption that everyone will be more productive if they work like extroverts.

Problem is most people aren't extroverts. And there's no research whatsoever that suggests introverts are less productive.

Its all bootstraps taken way too far

 
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Old 01-22-2015, 08:47 PM   #239
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No i know that, i woildnt say in introverted really but im also not fond of all the superficial bullshit required for the kind of extroversion they want. And the lingo holy shit

 
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Anyway its not like i enjoy participating in the for profit sphere

 
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