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and kurt wanted a divorce. and it all worked out for courtney, didn't it. she has all of kurts money, she owns all of his songs. not to mention the timing of kurts death (a week before her album 'live through this' was released). she has made herself rich and famous off of kurt and his music. [This message has been edited by ava adore 13 (edited 01-12-2002).] |
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It could be ALL coincidences... ------------------ On my own... when I need you... |
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i think SOMEONE killed him, though. [This message has been edited by ava adore 13 (edited 01-12-2002).] |
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Anyone heard his LAST song? It's called "Over the mountain", but it has actually many titles (also You got no right)... Only live recording have been found of that song so far, by fans, and VERY FEW have heard the studio version of it. Those people all agree that this song is AMAZING. Courtney has the song now... she wanted to put out a box set for 2001 (10 years after Nevermind), then, w/ all the law suits again the remaining members of Nirvana, people doubt it'll even be out for the 10th anniversary of Cobain's death... Oh well... who knows really...? Here are the lyrics: I would never bother you I would never promise to I would never bother you I would never promise to If I say that word again I would move away from here You won't be afraid of fear You won't be afraid of fear You won't be afraid of fear I am walking in the piss Always knew it would come to this Things have never been so swell And I have never felt so well You know you're right You know you're right You know you're right Whistle and I'll come inside I no longer have to hide Let's talk about someone else She just wants to love herself She moves away from here She just wants to love herself I won't move from here You won't be afraid of fear I won't move from here You won't be afraid of fear I am walking in the piss Always knew it would come to this Things have never been so swell And I have never been so well You know you're right You know you're right You know you're right Maybe you're right... Other lyrics exits, including those: "I don't think I love you now..." ------------------ On my own... when I need you... |
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![]() yeah, it's an amazing song. i've heard the live version...and i've heard about 15 seconds of the studio version (the version that was going to be in the boxset). even just judging by those 15 seconds you can tell it's a fantastic song.
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![]() yeah, I read one of the books that has all that info in it.
-I am convinced that the note was simply a retirement to the rock community. the handwriting changes on the last few lines that imply he is killing himself. coincidence? nah. -I am also convinced that Courtney was involved in her former bassist's death. Kristen HAD NOT done heroin in months when she was found dead in her apartment. Eric Erlandson (Hole's guitarist) was the LAST person seen in Kristen's home. though they were good friends, Courtney and Eric were also pretty close. god, I could go on, cause the book I read says so much. I have tons of opinions on the matter. but I will stop there. ------------------ http://virginmercury.homestead.com/files/burn.jpg I know I am failing except it was the plan |
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------------------ ...I'll put the fire out with my splooge! AIM - elegantsomething |
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this being said, I highly doubt that what he knows is anything incriminating about courtney as I don't think he would protect her if he thought she killed him. ------------------ PhantomFM |
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![]() there' sa bbc documentary called "kurt and courtney"
it's really good. even if courtney didn't kill kurt/ or have somebody do it for her. she was a psychodic bitch.. and still is. |
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. . . Doesn't Courtney actually have a part in that movie? Weird. ------------------ Confidence is a preference for the habitual voyeur. AIM - elegantsomething |
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![]() I did it, and I'd do it again.
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![]() if you ever read the Grant files, you'll truly believe that Kurt was murdered. Grant is an PI who investigated the case... there were a fuck of a lot of screw ups... people have admitted that courtney offered them money to kill Kurt...I'm convinced.
That's the entire reason I HATE Courtney Love... Wow... I've been having this same discussion since '95... *jenn* |
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![]() that's gonna be one helluva Behind the Music
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I am really bothered by how ademant she was about him being suicidal and no one else really was and how no one really called the rome incident a suicide attempt until after he had died. and about the fingerprints on the gun-yea maybe they had to get it out of his hands but when the police do that theyre VERY careful not to mess up fingerprints and if he'd handled the gun then there probably would have been atleast ONE finger print on it somewhere-the smudges make it sound like someone wiped the thing off. |
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Bleh... we'll just never know... The book HEAVIER THAN HEAVEN is pretty good, should I mention. It goes deep into the life of Cobain. The author had the right to peek into Kurt's diaries, letters he's never sent, etc... It's a bit depressive, but it's highly enjoyable... ------------------ On my own... when I need you... |
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I've never seen sid and nancy, but the bbc documentary has a lot of good insights to courtney's past. they do interviews with her X boyfriends who all claim she's crazy, they do mutiple interviews with her dad who also claims she's crazy... he also says that she was having an affair with billy corgan while cobain was in rehab. he also does an interview iwth el duce el duce was later killed about a week after the interview. the documentary also has an interview with the last babysitter to work for the cobain family... she left the job about a week or so before he died because she couldn't take the houshold fighting over the will and other things like that. Aparently also there is suspiscion that courtney turned frances bean off of kurt by ruining her image of her. she used to love her dad, but the babysitter said the last time he came home to see her she was scared of him for som ereason. also, the documentary contains interviews with journalists assulted by courtney. this one young book writer recieved many answering machine messages in which her life was threatened by kurt and courtney respectively. at one point they talk about paying somebody to have her killed. lots of proof that if anything else, courtney is crazy. go watch the documentary. it's great. ------------------ I wish i could move the stars for you.... Watch them fall and sparkle fade into the sea Cause if the stars would fall for me... Then surely you would too LJ aim: hopeforvicki |
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whore. |
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![]() I'd like to point out that courtney's father said she was having an affair WITH EVAN DANDO at that time. he met dando, yadda yadda when he went to visit her, they were sleeping in the same hotel bed and so on. courtney kicks dando out and calls kurt. her father says that that was the closest he had been to kurt.
i was also reading grants case files where he says the press was saying courtney was greiving in seattle when in actuality she was calling grant from arizona and bragging about sleeping with corgan three weeks after kurts death. so i went to SPFC (i was ticked and curious) to see what citys SP had been playing in in that span of time and they weren't in AZ. actually they were heading to europe if i recall. SP weren't in arizona until august of that year. ------------------ Dinner ready is Pizza?! |
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![]() and what exactly happened to El Duce? how'd he die? details?
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![]() el duche was an alchoholic... supposedly, he killed himself too...by jumping in front of a train...
though i don't believe that either...he knew too much. and i also heard that kurt was having an affair with Holes old bass player (i forget her name)... but then she died of an overdose in her bathtub... hmmm... |
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![]() heh. i wonder what would happen if someone made a post about this on the hole board and Courtney saw it. . .
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![]() she'd send someone after you... *shudder*
actually, to be honest, with the whole Billy vs. Courtney during Celebrity Skin thing, I thought he'd be the next to go... she's fucked up like that. |
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![]() Dude,okay,one thing I don't get:
When was this 'suicide'/retirement letter written? Did he just decide one day to take heroin and write out a bunch of drivel about quitting? Did someone come over as he was writing the letter and give him lots of heroin? Maybe I'm not being clear with my ?'s... ------------------ "You're living in the past,man!You're hung up on some clown from the sixties,MAN!!" FALL FROM GRACE ![]() |
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![]() Courtney was obviously taken by sid and nancy as the whole thing seems like a glorified kurt and courtney (the ppl, not the movie). also you can tell courtney thought she would make a better nancy than the person who played nancy- and she probably would've, but there's something about her being gross looking that would've been lost if courtney had of played it. Even if you think courtney is ugly, you'll agree that she's 1,000 times hotter than nancy in the movie.
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as for Kurt's retirement letter: he was tired of playing verse-chorus-verse stuff, and he was going to leave the grungr scene and start an experimental group. he wrote a goodbye letter because he felt that most of his old fans wouldn't listen to what he wanted to start doing. |
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TRANSCRIPT OF BROOMFIELDS INTERVIEW WITH THE NANNY. Friend (of the nanny): "She's really scared. She's always been afraid to talk about this." Broomfield: "How long was she the nanny?" Friend: "Um, 4 or 5 months. They go through nannies like people go through cleaners." Broomfield: "Really ?" Friend: "Yes." Broomfield: "And she's really frightened?" Friend: "Yes" Broomfield: "What is she frightened of ?" Friend: "Courtney." Broomfield now talks about the nanny: "She had become very depressed and withdrawn following her time at the house (Kurts house) just before Kurt died. I asked her what was so strange in those last weeks." Nanny: "There was just way too much will talk. A few different times. Major will talk. Just talking about his will and..." Broomfield: "What kind of points?" Nanny: "Courtney talking about his will and... I mean what a thing to talk about.” (Nervous laugh.) Broomfield: "And was this just sort of prior to his...." Nanny: "Yeah, I mean the month that I was up there was like, I came home for a what? A week? and then he died. I had quit for like, a week." Broomfield: "Why did you quit?" Nanny: "Because I couldn't stand it up there.”(nervous laugh.) Broomfield: "And what did you think of Kurt himself?" Nanny: "Ummm..." Broomfield: "I heard he was a very caring father." Nanny (nodding in agreement): "Yes, more caring than he was let to be.”(nervous laugh.) Friend: "What do you mean?" Nanny: "She just totally controlled him... every second that she could." Broomfield: "What do you think he wanted?" Nanny: "To get away from Courtney. And I think he just didn't have a way because..... (trails off). Honestly, i find most of those druggies more credible than courtney anyways given her record-she will do or say ANYTHING to get what she wants and anything to make herself look good(shes proven that with releasing false info to the press, etc.) She fucking did heroin when she was pregnant-now, im skeptical to trust anyone who's addicted to heroin but anyone who does it while pregnant is a severely fucked up person. |
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