Machina reissue a go

[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by Woody

Is this why I wasn't keen on Adore LMGTWTY? Shit, his vocals are fucking loud.

Has anyone done one of those fan edits to re-bury his voice?

Still sounds nicer than anything he's sung since 2003.

[enthusaroo]

i still remember the first time I heard Let Me Give the World To You.. the Viper Room show in L.A.. it sounded magical.. then the studio version came out with Machina 2.. and I was like ugh.. i waited so long and this sounds so fucking horrible

[jakobtheliar]

Originally Posted by enthusaroo

i still remember the first time I heard Let Me Give the World To You.. the Viper Room show in L.A.. it sounded magical.. then the studio version came out with Machina 2.. and I was like ugh.. i waited so long and this sounds so fucking horrible

The Adore era live version was a lot of meh too.

Only good acoustic I think.

This song may be one of the first times where billy successfully created hype about a middle tier song.

[VoxUpDoc]

Nah that live Adore era bootleg... you know the one, that was a belter.

[jimmy drevpile]

Originally Posted by Woody

Nice avatar, maybe I'll take it...

Zardoz?

[Joey Goldberg]

Zapdos?

[houseofglass11]

Agree about LMGTWTY. The Adore version could've been good but Joey Zaronwonka's drums are absolutely terrible. No swing, no flow, and weird disjointed fills. The Machina 2 version isn't that good either. The Adore live versions from the early shows on that tour were the best.

[Ram27]

M2 version is great imo. peak shoegaze and really fits with real love and the alt R+S

need to listen to that viper room show tho

[enthusaroo]

I was 17 or 18 and got a bootleg of that Viper Room show. It was probably the most exciting time to be a Pumpkins fan. Right off of MCIS.. and then hearing the Adore era songs for the first time, live, raw, and acoustic. Jesus Christ this band and Billy used to be good.. so long ago lol Fuck we're all old.

[FoolofaTook]

speak for yourself, loser.


i'm peaking.

[jakobtheliar]

Maybe let me give the world to you just isn't that great of a song?
From my understanding, the Adore box set take of it was an amalgamation of several different takes.

Joey Waronker isn't that great of a drummer to begin with and I don't feel like we ever got a true take from the time. Just 2013/14 Billy input.

[enthusaroo]

Originally Posted by jakobtheliar

Maybe let me give the world to you just isn't that great of a song?
From my understanding, the Adore box set take of it was an amalgamation of several different takes.

Joey Waronker isn't that great of a drummer to begin with and I don't feel like we ever got a true take from the time. Just 2013/14 Billy input.

Imagine if dumbass Corgan would have recorded it like this. How sweet would that be?

[run2pee]

Dunno what everyone is talking about, the MII lmgtwty is one of my fave machina songs. It’s classic. The viper room version is a little slow and lacks the shoegazy guitars

[FoolofaTook]

Ramwise and I are on your side brother.


I also like the reissue LMGTWTY.

There's a lot of hatred on this board.

[Shallowed]

Netphoria more like HATEphoria

[jakobtheliar]

Machina 2 version is the best recorded version. Moves nicely.

The shimmery guitars are quite nice and the acoustic part in the back is nice.
As with all M2 stuff though, it's too noisy because of the medium it was released.

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Shallowed

Netphoria more like HATEphoria

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by jakobtheliar

Machina 2 version is the best recorded version. Moves nicely.

[FoolofaTook]

damn listening to SYIL and IotM back to back. Shit slays.


OK maybe Cyr does suck haha

[jakobtheliar]

Dross. Real Love. Go. LMGTWTY. Home and Innosense.

Beautiful lineup. Really really strong order.

[run2pee]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

damn listening to SYIL and IotM back to back. Shit slays.


OK maybe Cyr does suck haha

Of course, any time u dip back into golden era it’s gonna make the latest atrocity even worse in comparison

Yet, with Cyr dare i venture to posit that i detect the first nascent tremblings of a creative spark that hasn’t been present since, well, Machina. It’s our band, and not the shiny oh so Rubin version. Like, there’s some fucken pumpkins on there, for real.

Leaving me ever so cautiously hard for what’s next

[FoolofaTook]

lol cautiously hard


but yeah that was what got me excited back in october. i thought i heard something that resembled the old classic vibes/emotion. then i got carried away by the fact that i actually enjoyed listening to sp for the first time in ages.

[FoolofaTook]

listening to machina ii select trax now.

goddamn speed kills slays. every note is so confident and badass.

and yeah lmgtwty is beautiful. so many fools on this board.

[Ram27]

real love || raindrops + sunshowers (alt) || lmgtwty is the elite treble shoegaze trinity of M2

[FoolofaTook]

ok will listen to real love/sunshowers alt right after bsbt arising is over


thank you rambro

[smashingjj]

I'm interested in becoming a meth head.

[vajohna]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

listening to machina ii select trax now.

goddamn speed kills slays. every note is so confident and badass.

Yep. Every time I hear that little bit of feedback at the beginning of the song I think I need to put a lighter into the air

[krackhead]

Originally Posted by vajohna

Yep. Every time I hear that little bit of feedback at the beginning of the song I think I need to put a lighter into the air

The single b side was better. I remember paying $10 for the import siyl single in 2000 when it first came out and it only had the title track and speed kills. I had a discman back then and remember bringing the cd outside with only those 2 songs to listen to.

[jakobtheliar]

Originally Posted by krackhead

The single b side was better. I remember paying $10 for the import siyl single in 2000 when it first came out and it only had the title track and speed kills. I had a discman back then and remember bringing the cd outside with only those 2 songs to listen to.

Dope memory, friendo!

I bought the import cd single from Amoeba in the Haight in San Francisco. After my dad was done with his first 1 or 2 purchases, (I was young and he paid AND was driving.)
I put my expensive 2 track cd into the discman with the tape attachment and speed kills was bliss.

A number one, classic example of the Adore era Fernandes guitar sound, but used in a shredder way. Add in the ambient James guitar and classic, tasteful Jimmy, and you've got one hell of a track.

ETA: I paid $11.99 for it, but it was the city.

[teh b0lly!!1]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

I'm interested in becoming a meth head.

check ur PM