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01-21-2022, 04:07 PM | #121 |
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i'm still convinced that James did indeed murder Biggie all the evidence is there
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01-21-2022, 07:22 PM | #122 |
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01-21-2022, 07:22 PM | #123 |
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so was the version of tonight
specifically thinking of the MTV "five night stand" show |
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01-22-2022, 02:10 AM | #124 |
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i remember it getting plenty of "hype" on radio and MTV. I remember watching the MTV Premier of Ava Adore. Weird that video premieres used to be a big deal that was advertised in advance.
But I also remember it also being the beginning of people who had gotten on the SP wagon with MCIS starting to jump off. Lots of casual fans were complaining that Adore was boring, depressing, dumb, etc. I loved that tour. It was my favorite year or two of SP (other than the year before and after SD). Yeah, it got a lot of hype. |
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01-23-2022, 08:15 AM | #125 |
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I remember when mom would come home from the grocery
and you'd see the bag of jumbo marshmallows and that box of graham crackers and suddenly the hype level skyrockets! me and my bros playing mortal kombat 2 just waiting on dad to come home so we could start the fire. so yeah i guess you could say the hype was real! |
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01-29-2022, 11:19 PM | #126 |
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http://www.spfc.org/tours/date.html?date=19961216
Making my way through the Adore era backwards and came across this MCIS show with the debut of Blissed and Gone. |
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01-29-2022, 11:23 PM | #127 |
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i would love a compilation of first live debuts of songs. there's that bullet from 94 that's cool/different
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01-30-2022, 02:48 AM | #128 | |
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You know it, and I know it. |
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01-30-2022, 03:34 AM | #129 |
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I remember being super hyped to see them on that vh1 fashion show thing and they played crestfallen and thinking “why that song”, which I have no problem with on a normal day but it just was a weird song choice at a fashion show thing. And I think it confused people, a lot of people.
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02-01-2022, 01:40 AM | #130 | |
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Late to the food fight here, but I rank To Forgive > For Sheila. As far as quiet acoustic opening tracks go, Soothe takes the top spot. Back to the OP, Adore's release saw all of the Rat-in-a-Cage fans shrug in confusion and move on. I remember excitedly putting the CD into my player and listening for the first time with my girlfriend: To Sheila... Boring. Next track. Ava Adore.. heard the single already, not a great single. Next track. Perfect.. ok, this sounds like 1979 but lacking that instant nostalgia that 1979 created ..Next track. This went on through most of the album. I thought Appels + Oranjes and Pug made a good 1-2 punch, but it definitely took more than a few listens to get into the darkness imbued in the mix. I was hoping for a face shredder like Jellybelly, or an epic that could rival Ruby. For Martha just didn't cut it -- I appreciated that it meant so much to Billy, but it didn't mean much to me. Looking back, I still enjoy tracks 4 through 13 (with Annie Dog an exception - can you imagine how the vocals would sound if he wrote it now? I think it was an early attempt at "proper" singing). Of all the songs, Pug might have been a decent single. Who knows. |
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02-01-2022, 06:01 AM | #131 |
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02-01-2022, 04:31 PM | #132 |
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London Adore Show
I was at that concert. It was so fun to attend a televised Pumpkins show in an energized small club right before Adore's release. Hype for the Mellon Collie Band was intense. There were Adore street signs in London and Paris. Billy's solo on To Sheila was an amazing beginning. Ava/Daphne and closer Transmission rocked, and the Perfect/Tonight/Stumbleine sequence was sublime. Then they played the excellent new 1979 and Simon Le Bon performed Nightboat with them. Hell of a show.
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02-04-2022, 09:34 PM | #133 |
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Lots of paragraphs in this thread to say:
Yes the hype was MASSIVE. Yes the let down was EVEN MORE MASSIVE. Yes was the beginning of the end. |
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02-05-2022, 06:22 AM | #134 |
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yep, true facts.
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02-05-2022, 06:34 AM | #135 |
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Yep and still somewhere in the musical nomansland
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02-05-2022, 06:50 AM | #136 |
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02-05-2022, 08:45 AM | #137 |
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02-05-2022, 10:11 AM | #138 |
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I feel the same with all after machina 2.......
Funnily i have no desire to listen to cyr again. I dont know what it is, but there is something about the post 2000 pumpkins that turns me off.....there is no substance |
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02-05-2022, 05:52 PM | #139 |
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same kind of, except there are very few songs from after 2000 that I would qualify with "okay"
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02-10-2022, 07:26 PM | #140 |
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02-10-2022, 07:48 PM | #141 |
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02-10-2022, 10:25 PM | #142 |
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02-11-2022, 12:23 AM | #143 |
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I get it. You dont like radiohead. Me too.
But obviously they are still relevant. From reddit: Okay, one last question. You made a lot of waves last week with your quote about Radiohead. Would you like to clarify what you meant when you said, “I’ll piss on fuckin’ Radiohead, because of all this pomposity. This value system that says Jonny Greenwood is more valuable than Ritchie Blackmore”? It’s not Radiohead that’s pompous; in fact, I think Radiohead is a great band. It’s the pomposity that surrounds Radiohead in a culture that needs to celebrate them to reaffirm their own value system. Like, “Isn’t it cool that Thom Yorke just rolls out of bed, puts on his hat, and doesn’t care?” That’s people reflecting their own values back to themselves. That’s the pomposity. That’s what I said in that quote. The culture that needs to place me behind P.J. Harvey on guitar. And I love P.J. Harvey, and I have complete admiration for her, but, c’mon, me behind P.J. Harvey on guitar? I mean, c’mon, that’s a fucking asshole, in a beard, in New York, who has to put me there to make some sort of statement. https://www.reddit.com/r/radiohead/c...out_radiohead/ |
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02-21-2022, 01:58 AM | #144 |
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Back in the days of AOL there were clips of the WAV files from the shows and early on B0lly even called the song Eva Adore. You could even get a full song, but it took forever, so the 30 second clips were easier to find. They had those email mailing lists and you could request the files in the SP chat room. So, people would FWD the audio files that were already uploaded by someone else, so they would not have to wait an hour to upload a 30 second .WAV file. Then they started getting bots that would send you the MP3 files of full albums before they came out. This was way before napster btw, maybe like 1997-1998 when MP3 first became a thing. I got the 1999 silverchair album that way and the james iha solo album. I already bought the adore single early on, so I did not get to hear the album until release date in 1998.
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02-21-2022, 09:03 PM | #145 |
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Should have released apples and oranges, 1979 was the most popular single off MCIS. Unusual production choices on adore. Looking at other songs that were big that year like Madonna’s ray of light, the mix of electronic & guitar sounds could have been good for the pumpkins but the production on Adore was just a bit too…weird
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02-22-2022, 12:32 AM | #146 |
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shoulda been pug
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02-22-2022, 10:20 AM | #147 | |
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I think a lot of them had RealVideo or whatever files of South Park, too, Christ, South Park was brand-new |
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02-22-2022, 12:45 PM | #148 | |
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Copies sold taken from Wikipedia: Pablo Honey US - 1.5 million+ UK - 600k+ Europe- N/A The Bends US - 1.5 million+ UK - 1.2 million+ Europe - 1 million+ OK Computer US - 2 million+ UK - 1.5 million+ Europe - 3 million+ Kid A US - 1.4 million+ UK - 300k+ Europe - 1 million+ Amnesiac US - 1 million+ UK - 300k+ Europe - 1 million+ Hail To The Thief US - 1.1 million+ UK - 300k+ Europe - 1 million+ In Rainbows US - 1 million+ UK - 300k+ Europe - 500k+ The King Of Limbs US - 370k+ UK - 100k+ Europe - N/A A Moon Shaped Pool US - 500k+ UK - 100k+ Europe - N/A Last edited by MyKeyZ : 02-22-2022 at 01:08 PM. |
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02-22-2022, 12:48 PM | #149 |
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I may as well show Pumpkins' numbers...
Gish US - 1 million+ UK - 60k+ Siamese Dream US - 4 million+ UK - 100k+ Mellon Collie US - 5 million+ UK - 300k+ Adore US - 1 million+ UK - 100k+ Machina US - 500k+ UK - 60k+ Zeitgeist US - 500k UK - N/A Europe numbers not available on Wiki. There are no certifications/numbers of copies sold listed for any albums after Zeitgeist. Last edited by MyKeyZ : 02-22-2022 at 01:04 PM. |
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02-22-2022, 01:02 PM | #150 |
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