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Old 08-05-2022, 01:20 PM   #1
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Default Who is June and why she is referenced multiple times in old SP songs?

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Old 08-05-2022, 02:55 PM   #2
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same reason he wrote "Luna" & not "Courtney"

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Old 08-05-2022, 07:02 PM   #3
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billy corgan's personal realization of the manic pixie dream girl archetype

glass is billy himself simply without MPB

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 07:02 PM   #4
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the machina mystery is the friends we made along the way

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 08:21 PM   #5
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I GUESS WE'LL NEVER KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE WILL EVER KNOW

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 08:21 PM   #6
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I TRULY DO NOT KNOW WHAT GIVES

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 09:42 PM   #7
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I always wonder how Billy got away with writing songs about Courtney while dating/married to Chris

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 09:44 PM   #8
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the name rhymed with moon.



Courtney rhymes with... ??? pottery?

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 09:55 PM   #9
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the name rhymed with moon.



Courtney rhymes with... ??? pottery?
Shortly?

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 10:03 PM   #10
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portly

 
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Old 08-05-2022, 11:01 PM   #11
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June bug

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like a scone

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 12:05 PM   #12
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I have those lyrics tattooed on my shoulder blade

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 02:58 PM   #13
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I always wonder how Billy got away with writing songs about Courtney while dating/married to Chris
They went through a messy divorce, so I would not say he got away with anything.

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 03:13 PM   #14
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define messy

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 03:52 PM   #15
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1. characterized by a dirty, untidy, or disordered condition:
a messy room.

2. causing a mess:
a messy recipe; messy work.

3. embarrassing, difficult, or unpleasant:
a messy political situation.

4. characterized by moral or psychological confusion.

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 05:57 PM   #16
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this is the first time i'm hearing of billy going thru a "messy" divorce

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 05:59 PM   #17
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but like fair question did you just add the word "messy" onto the word "divorce" without thinking about it?

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 06:02 PM   #18
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if i can be real this is the same sort of mentality that goes "zeitgeist production bad", "machina 2 production bad"

just robotic thinking with not cognitive thinking ability

(no offense personally)

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 06:05 PM   #19
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where's that fucking video of the baby jamming bulls on parade when i need it?

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 10:10 PM   #22
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ok but how badly was billy gunning for the machina i version of BSBT to be in the soundtrack of an end of world type movie

listening to it is so funny because you can really hear how cinematic he felt it was... truly a so bad its good recording

 
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Old 08-06-2022, 10:48 PM   #23
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every time i hear the extended ending i beg him to chill

 
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Old 08-07-2022, 05:36 AM   #24
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Brothers, I disagree. I have told my tale of defecation on public transport in relation to this song. If it has the power to elicit such a cacophonous reaction, it simply cannot be bad, by any metric. I find it plenty atmospheric, donít you know, and whilst I do prefer the Machina II version of the song, the Machina I recording would fit snugly into this particular film:


 
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Old 08-07-2022, 10:39 AM   #25
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but like fair question did you just add the word "messy" onto the word "divorce" without thinking about it?
He has talked, in numerous interview, about how the divorce was contentious, went on for a few years, and resulted in his now ex-wife attempting to go after a portion of his songwriting royalties. That is where I get "messy" from.

If you ever speak to me in that tone again, I pull your eyes out of your sockets and skull fuck you.

 
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Old 08-07-2022, 10:41 AM   #26
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Old 08-07-2022, 11:12 AM   #27
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They went through a messy divorce, so I would not say he got away with anything.
Touche

 
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Old 08-07-2022, 12:49 PM   #28
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boy

this thread sure got messy

 
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Old 08-07-2022, 12:50 PM   #29
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I always wonder how Billy got away with writing songs about Courtney while dating/married to Chris
well he never actually references her specifically does he? and honestly, have we ever gotten any sort of confirmation or even suggestion that those songs were about her from anyone other than the Courtmeister herself?

 
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Old 08-07-2022, 02:01 PM   #30
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well he never actually references her specifically does he? and honestly, have we ever gotten any sort of confirmation or even suggestion that those songs were about her from anyone other than the Courtmeister herself?
Well considering he likely wasn’t writing angry/sad/bitter songs about his girlfriend/wife who else would they be about?

 
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