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Old 12-03-2022, 07:37 PM   #31
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Edit: nvm.

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Old 12-03-2022, 07:38 PM   #32
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kinda wishing we got D4N instead of CYR now
It wouldn’t have sounded like these leaks.

 
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Old 12-03-2022, 07:41 PM   #33
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true true

shadowland and starcraft suck ass. they're infected with that shitty modern word salad vocal bullshit

 
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Old 12-03-2022, 07:56 PM   #34
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Was always fond of Amaranthine and was a 'lil bummed it never got a chance on any studio recording, but maybe that was for the better.

I do doubt the veracity of some of them, they feel more like reconstructions than actual demos/recordings, albeit really good reconstructions

EDIT: Just listened to Burnt-Orange Black and yeah, these aren't legit. That version actually comes from a set the Pumpkins did for the BBC at Maida Vale in 2014.

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Old 12-03-2022, 08:07 PM   #35
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Was always fond of Amaranthine and was a 'lil bummed it never got a chance on any studio recording, but maybe that was for the better.

I do doubt the veracity of some of them, they feel more like reconstructions than actual demos/recordings, albeit really good reconstructions
If some of these are D4N he would be constructing them with TL drum tracks right?
The inclusion of Shadowland increases the authenticity of the others imo.

 
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Old 12-03-2022, 08:13 PM   #36
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Yeah but we already heard this version of Shadowland. As Forgotten Child mentioned, it comes from that TBK mini doc in 2009 when Mike Byrne joined the band.


 
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Old 12-03-2022, 08:25 PM   #37
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Ah that’s a shame. So not legit.

Odd to go to these lengths. Some of them were really good for fan mixes, should’ve just called them that rather than going for the… roust.

 
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Old 12-03-2022, 08:31 PM   #38
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Anyone have the removed ones?

Amaranthine sounds like a live rehearsal.

 
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Old 12-03-2022, 08:35 PM   #39
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it was a fun little easter egg hunt tho

more fun than listening to CYR

 
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Old 12-03-2022, 08:50 PM   #40
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:20 AM   #41
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i'm pretty surprised at how a lot of you can't tell the difference between jimmy, mike and tommy lee drums. sort of reveals the ignorance behind the criticisms about his playing on ATUM.

also the mix of starcraft is terrible.

 
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Old 12-04-2022, 07:59 AM   #42
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true true

shadowland and starcraft suck ass. they're infected with that shitty modern word salad vocal bullshit
Shadowland lyrics are pretty simple actually

My mind is a plate
Sustained by fate
Breathless and endless
Let's take you back
The journey's past
To life that last
Buried just once
By mother earth
A heartache for keepsakes

So sang with drums of shadowland
Who will you love in shadowland?

So follow if you trust
Apologies as luck
For memories that blush [?]
In shadowland
So cruel the looks of shadowland

Shadowland

 
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Old 12-04-2022, 08:10 AM   #43
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Shadowland lyrics are pretty simple actually

My mind is a plate
Sustained by fate
Breathless and endless
Let's take you back
The journey's past
To life that last
Buried just once
By mother earth
A heartache for keepsakes

So sang with drums of shadowland
Who will you love in shadowland?

So follow if you trust
Apologies as luck
For memories that blush [?]
In shadowland
So cruel the looks of shadowland

Shadowland

 
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Old 12-04-2022, 10:15 AM   #44
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Shadowland sounds pretty decent

like a much worse Blank Page (great song)

 
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Old 12-04-2022, 12:40 PM   #45
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true true

shadowland and starcraft suck ass. they're infected with that shitty modern word salad vocal bullshit
When that David Lynch video with Billy recording a demo for Shadowland was released (the source of the audio), all the comments here and on the o-board were complaining about how awesome the song sounded compared to the TbK we'd gotten to that point, and complaining about how we needed songs like that for the album. I never understood that. I agree that, to me, it seems like a direct precursor to what we've gotten with CYR and Atum.

 
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Old 12-04-2022, 12:57 PM   #46
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Shadowland lyrics are pretty simple actually

My mind is a plate
Sustained by fate
Breathless and endless
Let's take you back
The journey's past
To life that last
Buried just once
By mother earth
A heartache for keepsakes

So sang with drums of shadowland
Who will you love in shadowland?

So follow if you trust
Apologies as luck
For memories that blush [?]
In shadowland
So cruel the looks of shadowland

Shadowland
Imagine writing this and thinking… I should be a published poet!

 
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:39 PM   #47
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honestly it looks like stuff a 13 year old would write, and clearly he started with the shadowland bit and tried to go around it. but that's all fine with me since this is unreleased. if all of the shit of this caliber in the past few eras were regulated to b-sides or extras to better a-sides they would be fine too, with a few exceptions

 
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Old 12-04-2022, 08:31 PM   #48
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I mean, it's not like SD and MCIS weren’t full of lyrics a 13 year old would write either.

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Old 12-05-2022, 01:41 AM   #49
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All fake.

 
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Old 12-05-2022, 01:55 AM   #50
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Two Legit.. Two Legit To Quite.. HEY HEEEYYYEEEE

 
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Old 12-05-2022, 06:00 AM   #51
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My mind is a plate
Sustained by fate
That transcription has always bothered me. My mind is a PLATE?

Imho, it's:

My mind is a lake
Sustained by flame

 
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Old 12-05-2022, 08:39 AM   #52
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I mean, it's not like SD and MCIS weren’t full of lyrics a 13 year old would write either.
Life's a bummer



When you're a hummer

 
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:50 AM   #53
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I can't help but think billy was going for this (and failing)


 
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Old 12-05-2022, 04:03 PM   #54
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I mean, it's not like SD and MCIS weren’t full of lyrics a 13 year old would write either.
that's definitely true, but they were at least confessional.

I'm sure you can find things as stupid on SD as
My mind is a plate
Sustained by fate
Breathless and endless

But it would be at least surrounded by good music and it would feel like he really meant what he was saying...

 
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Old 12-05-2022, 05:46 PM   #55
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Legit or not, did the Cardinal Rule one sound any good? I've always loved that song and hoped he'd eventually do a studio version that didn't ruin it.

Looking at you, Rose March, Blissed and Gone, etc., etc. ...

 
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Old 12-05-2022, 09:19 PM   #56
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Yeah it sounded pretty good

 
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Old 12-09-2022, 03:48 PM   #57
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*COUGH* BOY I WONDER IF THESE MIGHT BE WORTH LOOKING UP ON YOUTUBE AGAIN, NOT SURE *COUGH* *COUGH*

PROBABLY NOT GONNA *COUGH* TRY IT MYSELF

 
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Old 12-09-2022, 05:00 PM   #58
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I never heard this "Shadowland" before. This sounds like the opening of a musical. Like here's the setting of our little show. Next we're gonna see what misadventures and calamities befall some of the folks who have wound up in this place we know as... Shadowland... [Guys dressed head to toe in black push the wheeled platform Billy and his piano are on offstage as the curtains behind him begin to rise]

I wish ATUM felt more like this, really, not in sound necessarily but just in the way it feels like a fuckin' story somehow

 
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