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06-10-2006, 11:59 PM | #1 |
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3 prisoners dead at gitmo
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06-11-2006, 05:29 AM | #2 |
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"They have no regard for life, neither ours nor their own. I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of asymmetrical warfare waged against us."
From a US General. Yeah... |
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06-11-2006, 06:36 AM | #3 |
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1. They killed themselves
2. THREE deaths like this since 2002. |
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06-11-2006, 06:41 AM | #4 | |
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2. THREE REPORTED deaths like this since 2002 in ONE of MANY American prison camps where concern has been expressed about the treatment of prisoners and their rights. |
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06-11-2006, 07:13 AM | #5 |
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1. Wow, people in prison aren't happy with their lives? We need to change that!
2. So.. what exactly is your point? |
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06-11-2006, 07:20 AM | #6 | |
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People in prison don't just kill themselves. The kinds of hell that article mentions is not just what happens in prison, it's a symptom of the way they're run. And trying to say it's only three in the last 4 years is pointless, because it's not just one incident, it's part of something bigger, which is what I mentioned before about how the US is handling terrorist suspects etc etc. |
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06-11-2006, 08:32 AM | #7 | |
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06-11-2006, 08:40 AM | #8 | |
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06-11-2006, 09:18 AM | #9 |
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The question shouldn't be about the conditions... conditions in a jail are supposed to be pretty bad. That's the point.
The question should be about the fact that these people have been detained for 4 and a half years without any kind of a trial. |
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06-11-2006, 09:26 AM | #10 | |
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06-11-2006, 09:54 AM | #11 | |
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Zacarias Moussaoui was given a fair trial. |
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06-11-2006, 10:40 AM | #12 | |
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06-11-2006, 12:19 PM | #13 | |
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Seriously, how can people be mad at those who reacted with suspicion? Everybody should be suspicious about everything the government does, just to make sure they're doing their job well. Yeah, it's suspicious alright, so why not question this? |
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06-11-2006, 12:20 PM | #14 |
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the people in Gitmo are probably so fanatically crazy, i dont know how you can even be sure they didnt kill themselves just to make a political statement: hey opposition, look what the U.S. forced us to do to ourselves.
many terrorists blow themselves up on crowded sidewalks, better that they should do it alone inside a cell. i dont understand any call to recognize this as having the tiniest significance. |
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06-11-2006, 12:31 PM | #15 | |
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06-11-2006, 01:02 PM | #16 |
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I just think its funny that some of you guys seem to think that the unbearable thought of being locked up in these "horrible conditions" for "the rest of their lives" just happened to be too much for these three guys to take all at the same time. Isn't that just a bit coincidental? I mean, being despondent and killing yourself over your circumstances is one thing, but planning it out with others?
But nooooo, we can't take any suggestion that these guys might have planned this for some political end (like, say, getting bleeding heart American liberals to start rambling about the evils of Gitmo again). You can't say that they would have been crazy if that's what they were going for, seeing as so many of you reacted in the typical kneejerk anti-US way to this news. |
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06-11-2006, 01:40 PM | #17 | |
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Three people killing themselves at the same time suggests a pact, yes. Funny how YOU automatically assume they're crazy terrorists who got together and decided they valued making the US look bad over their own lives. Because hey, it's not like going through with killing themselves required a certain amount of emotional strength, the kind you get from going through something with other people. Clearly they just intended to maximize publicity! "2006 is it?" 'Yep' "Better kill ourselves then eh" 'Yep'. The 'anti-US' sentiment comes from their general attitude towards these people - I mean they came straight out and called this 'a PR stunt'. 3 people have been rounded up, shipped off to a high-security prison, locked up for 4 years (so far) with no trial or pretense towards receiving one, and finally killed themselves quietly in their cells; and it's immediately waved aside as a 'PR stunt'. Nice to see you predictably bouncing up to defend the party line, as always |
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06-11-2006, 01:45 PM | #18 |
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you're going to make a shitty lawyer, corganist.
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06-11-2006, 02:06 PM | #19 |
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even if i were in a minimal security "luxury" prison i'd still kill myself (unless i was gay, in which i hear prison isn't so bad). its fucking prison
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06-11-2006, 02:09 PM | #20 | |
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2. As always, I only defend the party line when its attacked unfairly. |
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06-11-2006, 02:24 PM | #22 |
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Corganist, do you think it's fair that they've gone 4 and a half years with no trial or even hope of trial?
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06-11-2006, 02:48 PM | #23 | |
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People gain strength from all kinds of things, including the knowledge that other people are going through the same thing, whether or not they're physically present in the room. Suicide pacts can be fulfilled as a group or seperately, and obviously circumstances here would dictate the logistics quite heavily. Of course there's little point in me explaining this to you, since you've obviously dismissed the possibility to the realms of 'I think not' Quote:
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06-11-2006, 03:30 PM | #25 |
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Well they have nobody to blame but thierself.
Oh well. |
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06-11-2006, 03:48 PM | #27 | |
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06-11-2006, 04:13 PM | #28 | |
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Things have to be pretty bad for anyone to go through with suicide. Yet people do commit suicide in group pacts. So clearly people do need emotional support even when things are that bad. QED, Mr Corganist Quote:
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This isn't the US weighing in with an opinion on a neutral subject. This is a situation created by the US, roundly condemned, which the US government has consistently sought to portray in a better light. Afghanistan was invaded by America, enemy combatants were captured, rounded up and shipped to an internment camp on foreign soil, and arbitrarily stripped of their rights under the Geneva Conventions. They have since been held and interrogated with no respect to due process - and this has all been justified by 'The War On Terror'. The US has faced huge criticism over Guantanemo, and rightly so. So no, any statements the US makes defending what happens there should be treated with suspicion. What's ironic is the claim that the suicides were 'a PR move', when that's exactly what the claim itself is. Calculated irony, of course |
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06-11-2006, 04:25 PM | #30 | |
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