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Old 12-06-2010, 11:37 PM   #31
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Wow, this flood of posts is just crazy, but so enjoyable! It's so nice to hear from a coherent Billy And of course he had to hate on Netphoria a little. Just so we know he still lurks here, the little rascal.

I also enjoyed this:

Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) FROM Evan Seary Classic Billy, hating on his fans. BC: no classic fans hating on me. so f'n boring...99.9 pct of the people i meet in my reality don't give a fuck about spiteface or any of this other shit. time to move on. i LOVE my fans, even the ones who despise me. i have never been about ass kissing fans. find an artist who reaches out more or has released more music than me and i say go hate on them instead.


I gotta agree with the last part, he does take alot of time reaching out to his fans, like tonight with the Q & A. I think that he wants us to be a part of his journey is commendable. You can argue it's a shitty journey, but I still appreciate the effort.

 
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:44 PM   #32
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Justin in a friend of mine.
Who is he in?!?! WAY TO GO JUSTIN!!

 
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:45 PM   #33
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Who is he in?!?! WAY TO GO JUSTIN!!
Pics?

 
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:46 PM   #34
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Okay, and who is Charm Bags, who posted this:

Billy's behavior over the past couple years has been not unlike the downward spiral of a drug addict. this interview is like the part where he pawns his mother's wedding ring for $50 worth of coke. stooping so low for five minutes of payoff....

BC is completely approval-oriented. he's willing to sell any narrative that he believes will earn him approval and respect, and he's represented himself in so many disparate ways that his words have lost all meaning. one minute he's the anti-sellout, all about "the common man", the ordinary fan, connecting with the suburban malaise. when that idea no longer serves him, because it either violates the beliefs he holds onto in order to deal with the reality of his diminished status, or because it no longer is getting him attention, he moves on. then he gives the middle finger to the vulgar and ignorant commoners who don't understand his god-given talent. he sells a song to Visa to make a pathetically transparent statement about how money doesn't matter. he's stadium rock and then he's self-involved jam band. he's a rock star and then he's a serious, introspective poet. he has no values, no core, and he'll sacrifice everyone around him in an attempt to build himself up.

his entire identity is tied to what other people think of him, which obviously worked at least functionally well when his albums were going platinum. but now he's having to live in a world where not only do his albums not sell very well, but the mythology of rock no longer has much relevance in American culture. BC's whole paradigm was centered around the idea that rock 'n' roll "mattered", and how he knew it mattered was that millions of people said so. now that that's fallen apart, he's willing to listen to any bullshit artist who can come up with some justification for what he perceives to be a mistake. Billy never talked about god until religion could be used to give him a position of superiority over others. he now feels that god has given him a favored, prophet-like role as an artist, and it seems plain that somehow this is supposed to make up for the loss of such a role in the eyes of the public. it's not surprising that he went with this New Age Christianity, not traditional Christianity, nor Buddhism, nor Islam or any other such religion, because a strict adherence to any of those religions would offer no opportunity to give himself special worldly importance. they all teach of the humility and equality of man. (more or less)

when Billy made good music, it was when he could tap into the desperation and destruction of these feelings of inadequacy. he actually wallowed in them, and seemingly accepted them as an identifying feature of who he was. he rejects all of that now, probably because it was draining to live that way, but he'll never make the kind of music he used to, despite his skill. he's totally out of touch with himself now and the songs are all shit because of it. they're flat, emotionless and dishonest. I feel sorry for Billy, and I pity anyone who tries to convince themselves that they enjoy his music.

 
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:46 PM   #35
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i'm guessing charm bags is that mean lesbian charmbag

 
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:47 PM   #36
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especially since that whole third paragraph she's written on here before

 
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:48 PM   #37
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That's one way of putting it. We've been split since 2007. We're still good friends, though.

We've both lost our SP fandom recently. We're nowhere near what we were back in 2000 (is anyone though? besides Monte). I'm more of a fan than she is these days. I think she gave up on Teargarden after Song for a Song. I actually am still downloading them when they come out, despite my meh reaction.

By the way, I have no idea who you are. Only reason I figured you'd know me is because you recognized Mandy's name. That fact alone has my guess narrowed down to two people (Brendan or ******).
It's the first one.

I haven't listened to anything Boll's done since Zeitgeist, and I have also not listened to anything between Machina and Shitgeist. So. Yes. I lost my fandom probably around the time they "broke up".

 
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:49 PM   #38
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Ah, I see. I guess I don't pay very much attention to names here.

 
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:50 PM   #39
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We've been split since 2007.

Zeitgeist has ruined at least 2 marriages then I see.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:00 AM   #40
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It's the first one.

I haven't listened to anything Boll's done since Zeitgeist, and I have also not listened to anything between Machina and Shitgeist. So. Yes. I lost my fandom probably around the time they "broke up".
Wish I could say the same about me. I actually like a song or two from Zeitgeist. I liked it a lot more when it came out, but it got worse with each listen. I'm too loyal to bands I like, I guess. I even liked Death Magnetic ffs.

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Zeitgeist has ruined at least 2 marriages then I see.
I almost mentioned that it was partially Zeitgeist's fault.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:09 AM   #41
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It's the first one.

I haven't listened to anything Boll's done since Zeitgeist, and I have also not listened to anything between Machina and Shitgeist. So. Yes. I lost my fandom probably around the time they "broke up".
"so man haven't seen you in a while. when did you lose your fandom?"

"i totally lost it when they broke up, dude."

"yeah... wish i could say the same"

wtf guys, really

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:12 AM   #42
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i heard zwan at the local watering hole, i may actually listen to that eventually.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:12 AM   #43
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"so man haven't seen you in a while. when did you lose your fandom?"

"i totally lost it when they broke up, dude."

"yeah... wish i could say the same"

wtf guys, really
Your reading comprehension is amazing.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:14 AM   #44
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:15 AM   #45
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Zeitgeist has ruined at least 2 marriages then I see.
Nah, man. It's probably just the 7-year itch. 2000-2007. Primates = Serial monogamy FTW.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:26 AM   #46
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Billy started this when he asked for everyone's opinion, then bitches when we give it to him. His facebook will be shut down because he can't handle the truth.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:32 AM   #47
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and shut up squirrel fucker

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:37 AM   #48
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my 92 year old great grandma is better at fb than billy.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:54 AM   #49
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my 92 year old great grandma is better at fb than billy.
you lie.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:55 AM   #50
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no really she figured it out all by herself. she loves it.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:56 AM   #51
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i'm worried about her privacy settings though but I don't think she cares.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 02:09 AM   #52
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:08 AM   #53
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Jonathan Monte Slay the dragon that troubles the SP Board, tell these ppl the proper speed of Teargarden Theme

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:17 AM   #54
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Breaking News:

Billy loses his mind again. Hates netphoria.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:25 AM   #55
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i can't believe people use facebook. posting their status every day.... their feelings, what they are doing, eating, fucking all while playing farmville. i bet billy plays farmville.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:47 AM   #56
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you're profoundly lonely

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:51 AM   #57
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i feel fb is an excuse to try and not feel profoundly lonely

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:00 AM   #58
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yes thanks for updating us with that status

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:18 AM   #59
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so just so you know, to let you in on the secret, half of what i do is meant to throw people off. including the old school entitled fans who think i woe them something. and certainly for the snarks who think they got it all figured out 20 years after the fact. look twice at what i say and ask yourself am i really talking to you, or am i just trying to throw the jerks off my trail. i don't want a FAKE success.
You want everyone to think you're a fucking asshole that's the whole plan? That's a really shitty plan.

 
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:18 AM   #60
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what a dumb thing to say after a fan Q&A, too

"By the way guys half of this was bullshit but I won't tell you what half! Later!"

 
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