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Old 03-20-2023, 09:10 PM   #1
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Wink New song Mar 21 - Cenotaph

Strap in and strap on

 
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Old 03-20-2023, 09:25 PM   #2
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Old 03-21-2023, 05:53 AM   #3
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This is going to be the one.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 07:23 AM   #4
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This is going to be the one after the last one.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 07:28 AM   #5
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And before the next one.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 07:29 AM   #6
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It's going to be so intense, such an emotional journey, with lots of dynamics and stuff. The vocals are high in the mix.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 07:44 AM   #7
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Today was the day Billy Corgan finally became president

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:30 AM   #8
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:31 AM   #9
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Acoustic song with annoying synth pulling focus. No drums, sounds like Jimmy is finally making use of that "clap stack" he had setup on his kit in the studio.

Sounds like a filler track, does nothing for me.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:32 AM   #10
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One of my favourites so far

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:49 AM   #11
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Lots of words but utterly impossible to work out most of them, almost sounds like a different language

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 09:23 AM   #12
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Doing a tarot birth reading for the album Gish… Gemini something about hands… Jimmy drums with his arms & hands, signifies he’s important for the album… don’t forget Billy has a Gemini moon…. Just WHAT THE FUCK YOU IDIOTS.

Diana also has some of the same vocal mannerisms as Billy… did he pick them up from her?

Honestly, insufferably stupid. Bully putting any credence in this shit is mind-blowing. Wow. Dumb dumb dumb.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 09:27 AM   #13
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He’s already over hyping the next album and throwing comparison with SD. Oh boy

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 10:10 AM   #14
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When Billy says he's working on a rock album like how he made Siamese Dream...


 
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Old 03-21-2023, 10:38 AM   #15
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All by himself again. He's not lying.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 10:56 AM   #16
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ATTENTION BILLY

you were asked to APOLOGIZE for your past bullying
just saying "yeah maybe I was a bully in the past, so I'm kind of an expert so stop bullying me and listen to me"
I'm paraphrasing... but having been a bully doesn't qualify you an expert in any sort.
you're response was totally tone deaf.
you need to apologize. publicly.
the idea of apologizing for your sins is where the redemption comes from. How do you assume you get a story of redemption by simply letting time pass makes good on your bullying??? It doesn't. You can't rewrite the story of the hero, as a bully.


I'm not surprised that asking you to apologize, you manage to distort into "they're bullying me". No billy. Asking you to apologize is asking you to be a better example. We want to believe in your story of redemption, you don't get a free pass. this isn't bullying. If you're feeling coerced by this post, please log off the internet. I'm allowed value jugements, especially of public figures. If you can't even apologize it's fair to call you out and asy you're full of shit. There's no 'winning' here at my end. Be a hero , the pieces are all laid out, you just have to pick them up and do the right thing....

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Old 03-21-2023, 10:57 AM   #17
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Billy thinks the super-structure of Katie vocals and stupid ass synths can make up for the lack of a proper song and it's fucking depressing.

Cenotaph sucks Satan's cock

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 11:05 AM   #18
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It's funny how I keep waiting for the next tune to be "the one" and they all basically suck.

Even in the context of the concept...they suck.

Beguiled is a good monster truck song but that's about it.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 11:06 AM   #19
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Nobody seriously wished Billy would die in 2009 or whenever, so his legacy would be preserved, nobody ever genuinely thought that - it was just internet troll heel talk. He should enjoy that kinda shit..

All Things Change is decent.

New record sounds intriguing.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 11:17 AM   #20
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Nobody seriously wished Billy would die in 2009 or whenever, so his legacy would be preserved, nobody ever genuinely thought that - it was just internet troll heel talk. He should enjoy that kinda shit..
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being a heel is Billy's inside joke and no one else is supposed to understand what it is (so he can keep saying "people don't understand") and people aren't supposed to participate either.

It's like a wizard of oz switcharoo where he's behind the curtain with you trying to make you feel special by telling you "there's fools on the other side of this curtain that don't understand I'm not a wizard"... but he gets mad at you if you dare look behind the curtain to see who these 'fools' (the them) are. Billy just wants you to feel special like you're part of his US, by fabricating an THEM. it's a decent concept, but eventually everyone looks behind the curtain - the end of the story is the same: there's no wizard.
and in this story, there's no one behind the curtain who thinks billy's a wizard.

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Old 03-21-2023, 11:48 AM   #21
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Song almost gets there for me, but not quite.

But now I wanna watch Hellraiser, been a few years

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:09 PM   #22
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I love this song. Glad Billy told Howard to kick rocks on whatever it was going to be in the “modern age” or whatever.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:15 PM   #23
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Song almost gets there for me, but not quite.

But now I wanna watch Hellraiser, been a few years
Second one might be the single strangest movie I have ever seen...

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:27 PM   #24
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Lots of words but utterly impossible to work out most of them, almost sounds like a different language
OMG this is so accurate, it's like a different language. Literally no idea what he is saying with that style of singing and pronunciation. Crazy.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:37 PM   #25
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He’s already over hyping the next album and throwing comparison with SD. Oh boy
he said it definitely doesn't sound like SD, but he's said that he is trying to work on the new one using the same processes as he did during SD. just for anyone who hasn't listened and takes this the wrong way.

there's a lot of sections of this podcast that are about protecting his image, trying to explain away things trolls say about him and all that kind of defensive stuff, but i have to say i actually do really love hearing him talk about making music and working in the music business.

i am a big fan of his outlook on making new music. i love that he wants to keep creating and experimenting and trying different things. i totally relate to where he's coming from and his outlook on that side of things.

i do also enjoy hearing the story behind the atum songs (likely all explained in the story book as well) and find that after i hear that and re-listen to the song, that it does become more enjoyable to me. i don't know the whole story and couldn't recite it but after having done this to most of the songs there is some sort of emotional connection to them that's been built.

what makes it easy for me is that there is no stakes here, like SP can put out a shit album and whatever, it doesn't affect my life. so lets go and keep making new shit and who knows which album down the line i might discover like oh shit okay... this is the business. but also luckily for me i love oceania, am enjoying atum a lot, i like a good chunk of cyr and there are definitely multiple tracks from all the other projects that i really like. so there's no losses, only wins.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:51 PM   #26
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hate everything about the 10 seconds I listened to

I also hate how when I click on the louder wavelengths to hear the new song (following the visual hills) the advertisements precede the song. Double punishment.

I can't believe some of you are suffering both through the podcasts and these "songs"

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 01:03 PM   #27
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song is completely harmless. i like it.

so far i'm liking act 3 the best.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 01:18 PM   #28
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I love this song. Glad Billy told Howard to kick rocks on whatever it was going to be in the “modern age” or whatever.
I feel like by some of the comments in recent episodes and later in this episode he's starting to throw him under the bus. Good.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 01:25 PM   #29
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Second one might be the single strangest movie I have ever seen...
It's fuckin' weird for sure. Last good one in any way up until apparently last year's reboot, which I really wanna see.

 
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Old 03-21-2023, 02:59 PM   #30
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IMO it looks great, has some fun ideas, good effects and kills and all, and is well worth the watch

Though I feel like it doesn't quite get the Cenobites' whole deal, and I keep going back and forth on how much that bugs me

 
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