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08-20-2020, 07:17 PM | #271 |
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"tankies"
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08-20-2020, 08:03 PM | #272 | |
huh
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But uh, even if I didn’t know for certain (I do), we know who Trump has appointed already. Just admit that you don’t actually give a fuck about people who are actually in trouble, ok? |
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08-20-2020, 08:06 PM | #273 |
huh
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And whatever you’re in Missouri but your poisonous attitude contributes to people in Pennsylvania Wisconsin and Michigan and Texas and North Carolina and Ohio and Florida feeling the same way.
I probably agree with you on policy in every way. I don’t want to spout cliches. But four more years of this will do irreparable harm to a lot of people. Biden isn’t going to fix everything. But the idea that his win would result in a worse Trump is completely unfounded and, frankly, very dumb. |
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08-20-2020, 08:08 PM | #274 |
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We currently are dealing with a lawsuit to repeal the ACA that the party in power supports. ?????
The ACA isn’t perfect by any means but if it’s repealed people will literally die when they wouldn’t otherwise. This isn’t hard. |
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08-20-2020, 08:08 PM | #275 |
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"ISIS is making a tremendous amount of money because they have certain oil camps, certain areas of oil that they took away . . . They have some in Syria, some in Iraq. I would bomb the shit out of 'em. I would just bomb those suckers. That’s right. I’d blow up the pipes . . . I’d blow up every single inch. There would be nothing left. And you know what, you’ll get Exxon to come in there and in two months, you ever see these guys, how good they are, the great oil companies? They will rebuild that sucker, brand new, it will be beautiful."
- Donald Trump, 2015 What if Biden starts some brand new wars, though? He may. |
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08-20-2020, 08:12 PM | #276 |
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Here’s where I will bitch about Obama claiming we didn’t need an individual mandate when Hillary knew it was necessary
Ok done with that complaint for now. |
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08-20-2020, 08:13 PM | #277 |
huh
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And you know what, I will apologize for hurling personal insults because that doesn’t help anything. But this administration has been even worse than I feared. We cannot do it again.
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08-20-2020, 08:22 PM | #278 |
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"I see again the forest fires are starting . . . They’re starting again in California. I said, you gotta clean your floors, you gotta clean your forests — there are many, many years of leaves and broken trees and they’re like, like, so flammable, you touch them and it goes up . . . Maybe we’re just going to have to make them pay for it because they don’t listen to us."
- President Trump on Thursday What if Biden lacks the creativity to end the California wildfires with solutions such as a leaf-raking program? |
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08-20-2020, 08:31 PM | #279 | |
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08-20-2020, 08:37 PM | #280 | |
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We’re fucked forever and I really do think it’s important to try to make us less fucked if at all possible? I understand your point that Missouri is probably a lost cause, but I think it would be more helpful to try to do whatever you could to defeat this absolute monster. |
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08-20-2020, 08:41 PM | #281 |
huh
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I don’t want to fight with people that I agree with : (
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08-20-2020, 08:49 PM | #282 |
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Notice how he ignores all the arguments that are harder to refute and just zeroes in on the "why does one vote in Missouri matter anyway" angle?
Like, I don't really care who you, personally, vote for, Squishy Toes. Discussing that is just a proxy for discussing the wider idea of if refusing to mitigate harm in a utilitarian manner when optimal outcomes are not feasible is a sensible course of action. I think it's not and that it's very stupid, and you're not giving compelling arguments otherwise. |
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08-20-2020, 08:52 PM | #283 |
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08-20-2020, 10:10 PM | #284 |
Brazilian Blouselord
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This could’ve been a pleasant, intelligent conversation about butts. But no.
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08-20-2020, 11:24 PM | #285 |
Shut the fuck up!
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Have some respect for the thread!
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08-20-2020, 11:39 PM | #286 |
Minion of Satan
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Actually, I've changed my mind.
If the thread continues to be completely awful for a while longer, it will ultimately trigger a backlash and we'll get high quality debate composed entirely of sound logic about four pages from now. |
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08-21-2020, 03:51 AM | #287 |
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08-21-2020, 09:29 AM | #288 |
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The real poisonous thinking is believing we should vote for candidates like Biden because the republicans are even worse when there is another option. If all of the people who said “look I am not crazy about Biden but we have to stop Trump” voted green it would kill neoliberalism. You guys are completely brainwashed. It’s fine, I understand because I was too until 2019. Just pay more attention to the things people like Biden support.
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08-21-2020, 10:24 AM | #289 |
Brazilian Blouselord
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Also some (most) democrats in America have beliefs that align with Biden. Candidates for a party are designed by committee. It’s one of the best things in theory about democracy - most of the votes are in the middle of the political spectrum so in order to win and by nature the winner attracts the most votes from the center of the Gaussian distribution.
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08-21-2020, 10:58 AM | #290 |
Minion of Satan
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It's tough to decide whose ideas to go with from reading this thread, but I'm leaning towards the guy that suddenly formed his perspective a year ago.
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08-21-2020, 11:11 AM | #291 |
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I think it's pretty adorable that Squish Squash thinks there will be anything resembling a free and fair election in 2024 if Trump gets four more years.
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08-21-2020, 11:46 AM | #292 | |
Shut the fuck up!
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08-21-2020, 11:59 AM | #293 |
Shut the fuck up!
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why won't the workers rise up?
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08-21-2020, 12:04 PM | #294 |
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It's easy, guys. All we have to do is elect a political party that has never even managed to get any federal congressional seats or significant caucuses in any state legislature, into the highest office in the country in three months.
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08-21-2020, 12:46 PM | #295 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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hey anything is possible, therefore it makes more sense to let the guy who is a saber-rattling fascist and has brought the US to the brink of war with both a nuclear-capable rogue state and a regional powerhouse in the Middle East get re-elected.
everyone knows that the US political system is a clockwork pendulum and allowing tons of truly truly awful shit happen now will result in conservative and centrist liberals supporting a far left candidate in just four more years even though Trump's first term resulted in less support for leftist candidates. blim blam, just like magic. what's political science? |
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08-21-2020, 12:47 PM | #296 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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don't blame me when tucker carlson is president in four years. no, I don't have any particular reason to believe this is how the system works, but I've checked with the stars and the planets
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08-21-2020, 12:48 PM | #297 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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and facebook
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08-21-2020, 12:50 PM | #298 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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hindsight is 2024
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08-21-2020, 01:40 PM | #299 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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it also occurs to me that squish squash must have tremendous faith in the American electoral system to believe things will course correct if we just give them time
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08-21-2020, 01:51 PM | #300 |
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