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Old 08-10-2008, 06:16 PM   #1
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Default LMA: 2008-08-09 - Hammond, IN

Smashing Pumpkins
August 9, 2008
Hammond, IN - The Venue (Horseshoe Casino)

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Taper: Bullet1979 [[email protected]]
Source: Core-Sound Cardioids -> Core-Sound Battery Box -> MZ-RH910
Location: Approx. 30 Feet from Stage, Center
Conversion to Wave: Cool Edit Pro 2 > .Wav
Edit and Transfer Notes: USB -> Adobe Audition Split and Normalize -> Wav -> FLAC

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SET

01. Intro
02. Tarantula
03. G.L.O.W.
04. Siva
05. Eye
06. Mayonaise
07. Tonight, Tonight
08. Speed Kills
09. Transformer
10. Superchrist
11. United States
12. Band Introduction
13. Once Upon a Time
14. Again, Again, Again (The Crux)
15. The Rose March
16. Banter
17. Today
18. Bullet with Butterfly Wings
19. The Beginning is the End is the Beginning
20. Heavy Metal Machine
21. Glass' Theme
22. Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun [Pink Floyd]

**ENCORE**

23. We Only Come Out at Night
24. In the Summertime [Mungo Jerry]



http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2008-08-09.aud.flac

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:18 PM   #2
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Thanks.

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:23 PM   #3
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thanks

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:29 PM   #4
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awesome

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:57 PM   #5
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Thanks

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:08 PM   #6
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Man I thought I would only get to hear one of this weekends shows. But damn both of them.. You are awesome. Really making me want to go see them next weekend when they play VA. I guess a road trip may be in my future.

Jeremy

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:21 PM   #7
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Shit, Bullet, you're the man. Very nice. Thanks for your work.

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:32 PM   #8
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thanks again bullet !

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Old 08-10-2008, 07:56 PM   #9
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Awesome, Bullet1979 wins today.

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:19 PM   #10
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danke.

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:46 PM   #11
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Sounds really good, thanks again!

 
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:21 PM   #12
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awesome. goes to show how important taper position is. this one sounds so much better.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:29 AM   #13
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thanks dude!

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 10:59 AM   #14
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great recording thanks a lot.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:43 PM   #15
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amazing how billys voice seems to be getting better in comparison with 6 months ago

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:15 PM   #16
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Thanks for this, really enjoying this recording.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:16 PM   #17
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What a kick ass new Intro.

Also, which is better this show or Davenport?

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:25 PM   #18
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Fucking amazing!!! Thanks

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:03 PM   #19
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What a kick ass new Intro.

Also, which is better this show or Davenport?
They are pretty similiar. I would give a slight edge to Hammond though because he messes up the words to "In the Summertime". This one sounds better too.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 03:01 PM   #20
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They are pretty similiar. I would give a slight edge to Hammond though because he messes up the words to "In the Summertime". This one sounds better too.
After comparing the sound quality of both, I'm gonna have to go ahead and agree with you.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 04:02 PM   #21
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Thanks! Good that I just upgraded my DSL line just in time for downloading this tour

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:20 PM   #22
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tsp2008-08-09t01.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1912 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t02.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1316 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t03.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 2136 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t04.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 2332 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t05.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 808 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t06.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 132 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t07.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 332 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t08.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1592 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t09.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 116 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t10.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 544 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t11.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 388 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t12.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 2164 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t13.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 148 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t14.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 2116 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t15.flac: audio data is cut on a sector boundary.
tsp2008-08-09t16.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1176 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t17.flac: audio data is cut on a sector boundary.
tsp2008-08-09t18.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 188 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t19.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 40 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t20.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1092 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t21.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 640 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t22.flac: audio data is cut on a sector boundary.
tsp2008-08-09t23.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1472 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t24.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 8 bytes).

There were sector boundary errors.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 06:21 PM   #23
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awesome. goes to show how important taper position is. this one sounds so much better.
i think the venue's slightly muffled/lower sound worked to the taper's advantage, too

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 07:52 PM   #24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Day dreaming Of Darcy View Post
tsp2008-08-09t01.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1912 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t02.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1316 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t03.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 2136 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t04.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 2332 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t05.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 808 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t06.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 132 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t07.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 332 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t08.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1592 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t09.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 116 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t10.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 544 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t11.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 388 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t12.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 2164 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t13.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 148 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t14.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 2116 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t15.flac: audio data is cut on a sector boundary.
tsp2008-08-09t16.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1176 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t17.flac: audio data is cut on a sector boundary.
tsp2008-08-09t18.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 188 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t19.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 40 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t20.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1092 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t21.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 640 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t22.flac: audio data is cut on a sector boundary.
tsp2008-08-09t23.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 1472 bytes).
tsp2008-08-09t24.flac: audio data is not cut on a sector boundary (sector misalignment = 8 bytes).

There were sector boundary errors.
So, open a new waveform, add each track, save it, and re-track the show with CDWave.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 07:56 PM   #25
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So, open a new waveform, add each track, save it, and re-track the show with CDWave.
I thought that didn't work, because not cutting it on sector boundaries eliminates (minuscule) amounts of data.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 09:51 PM   #26
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You're right. I didn't think about it before I posted.

 
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:00 PM   #27
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I thought that didn't work, because not cutting it on sector boundaries eliminates (minuscule) amounts of data.
No. As long as it isn't burned to CD and re-extracted to WAV, no data should be lost and the track transitions should still be seamless when played on a computer.

 
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:07 AM   #28
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wouldn't it be a lot simpler to just use shntool or trader's little helper

 
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:38 AM   #29
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To the original recordist.. ty very much. I posted the SBE report in a hurry as I was heading into the city. The recordings are very much appreciated and, although they have some technical flaws, they sound great!

Yes.. the best way to correct this would be to use shntool or my personal fav, trader's little helper. You can load up all the tracks (in order) and then use TLH to fix them all at once. It will just 'remap' each song by taking a few sectors from either the beginning or end of each track and append it to the previous/next track. However, it's not full proof; the music within the tracks needs to be contiguous.

Errors like this need to be cleaned up and fixed on the version that is uploaded to the LMA, even if as stated by Sebastian, it's not really a problem until burned to cd then re-extracted to wav. I'd be more than happy to assist the recordist in this process if need be.

I also noticed the LMA identifiers weren't really in the preferred etree naming scheme, or even consistently between the two shows. If it were me, I would have named them:

tsp2008-08-08.csc.flac16
tsp2008-08-09.csc.flac16

Tyler H. at the LMA can can very easily fix the identifier if the uploader sends him an email.

One of my goals since probably last summer has been to start up a faq or blog specifically dealing with the editing of shows and upload to the lma. There's a ton of steps involved, especially with the LMA's very non-user friendly interface. Many things can go wrong and correcting them can be a real bitch. Perhaps I will get on that sooner than later.

 
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Old 08-12-2008, 01:02 AM   #30
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I've noticed your use of the term recordist as of late. What are the origins of this term and do you feel that society is ready to accept it with open arms and willing to integrate it into the lexicon?

 
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