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Old 11-23-2022, 07:12 PM   #61
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yeah bullet is so weak it only peaked at 22 on the top 40 charts as a hard rock song

so goddamn weak the melodies are too catchy and james leads are too tasteful .... gross!

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 07:14 PM   #62
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my hottest take that everyone hates is that i find muzzle legitamately weak both live and in studio

i cant fathom someone preferring muzzle over bwbw from a songwriting perspective

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 07:14 PM   #63
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here is no why is superior live

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 07:52 PM   #64
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Here Is No Why is one of the best songs that the b0llster ever wrote.

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 08:14 PM   #65
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my hottest take that everyone hates is that i find muzzle legitamately weak both live and in studio

i cant fathom someone preferring muzzle over bwbw from a songwriting perspective
Yeah

Still not convinced big willie knows the distance to the sun

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 08:33 PM   #66
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Legit can't think of any. I think classic pumpkins had a magic vibe in the studio where even kinda meh songs still benefitted from it. Hard to explain.

I can think of a few songs that don't hit the same live as they do on the records, like for example By Starlight, it's really good live but the studio one is just perfect.

Edit: Owata was pretty sweet live on the 20th anniversary tour. Studio version is awful.

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Old 11-23-2022, 08:42 PM   #67
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i think like... the best examples are the songs that were already rocking in the studio that got sick ass live arrangements in addition to the point where both are essential

MCIS/adore tour cycles were the best for this... beautiful is a great example,,, but also tonight tonight country version, daphne descends, etc

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 08:43 PM   #68
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ok heres a good one

cherub rock acoustic versions>>>>>>>>>>>>cherub rock SD

by like a massive longshot

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 10:17 PM   #69
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Pug on the arising tour

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 10:57 PM   #70
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:43 PM   #71
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my hottest take that everyone hates is that i find muzzle legitamately weak both live and in studio

i cant fathom someone preferring muzzle over bwbw from a songwriting perspective
Muzzle is ten times better than BWBW. Fathom that.

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:48 PM   #72
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Muzzle is ten times better than BWBW. Fathom that.
muzzle is lame because it references the "june" narritive

Have you ever heard the words
I'm singing in these songs?
It's for the girl I've loved all along
Can a taste of love be so wrong
As all things must surely have to end
And great loves will one day have to part

yuck

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:49 PM   #73
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bullet is so badass and menacing and 70s aesthetic in the best way with the sweetest poppiness on top its like candy but also like pain

 
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Old 11-23-2022, 11:50 PM   #74
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ok this specific performance when paired with the video is more god tier than the album version i tihnk at least


 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:00 AM   #75
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bullet is so badass and menacing and 70s aesthetic in the best way with the sweetest poppiness on top its like candy but also like pain
It's the lyrics that make it a bit lesser. The song itself is gold.

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:00 AM   #76
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muzzle is the mayonaise of mellon collie

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:01 AM   #77
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lmfao no

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:01 AM   #78
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try: Galapagos

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:02 AM   #79
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Pug on the arising tour
disagree, the clean expansive chorus is what makes it

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:02 AM   #80
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I don't hate the lyrics of BWBW, but I think their over-appearance in pop culture ruined it for me

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:03 AM   #81
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Anyway, studio version of Here Is No Why is top 5 MCIS track material

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:13 AM   #82
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Hmmm

Yeah. It is kinda nice huh

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:13 AM   #83
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muzzle is lame because it references the "june" narritive

Have you ever heard the words
I'm singing in these songs?
It's for the girl I've loved all along
Can a taste of love be so wrong
As all things must surely have to end
And great loves will one day have to part

yuck
That’s literally one of the best verses Corgan has ever written. You’re also someone who thinks Taylor Swift writes good lyrics so let’s take that for what’s it worth.

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:19 AM   #84
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Yeah. It is kinda nice huh
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:25 AM   #85
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try: Galapagos
galapagos is the by starlight of mcis

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:26 AM   #86
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sweet sweet is the medellia of siamese dream

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:28 AM   #87
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Steve is the Dave of Karl

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 12:43 AM   #88
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You’re also someone who thinks Taylor Swift writes good lyrics so let’s take that for what’s it worth.
yea so crazy that i think the #1 artist on spotify worldwide is talented crazy right

 
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It’s not crazy, it’s just so so basic.

 
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:09 AM   #90
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yea so crazy that i think the #1 artist on spotify worldwide is talented crazy right
Psy was the biggest artist in the world at one point in time.

 
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