Has there been any updates on those vinyl releases I overpaid for and already regret?

[slunken]

i'm buying bootlegs from now on

[cokefantastic]

Rubano Tapes finally shipped today

Edit: false alarm. Label was created.

[Spaceboy88]

Got my shipping (label created) notification today too.

Hoping this is much better quality than the Live in Japan debacle. Also hoping some kind soul rips this faster than it took for the others.

[slunken]

why do these "cabaret metro 93" and "riviera 95" fm rips on bootleg vinyl sound so much better than the "tokyo" archive release?

crowd/ambient/venue noise not completely removed?

i think that's part of it, but i also suspect "headphone mastering" and, to a lesser extent, overall bad decision making using calculators and not your ears.

[slunken]

we're never going to get any late or even mid period full shows because it would take 3 or 4 records. we're probably never going to get any demos because the record company now owns them because of the reissues. radio shows are off limits i would guess because why record a professionally recorded show/session?

ugh this is grim

[slunken]

guys it's time to buy these boots

billy is sleeping

[Ram27]

i don't even care anymore. i'm fine with everything on archive.org; i've learned to enjoy the quality of even shitty AUDs

[slunken]

i don't have good speakers hooked up to my laptop (computer) so all digital content has to be downloaded and then moved to a hard drive and then moved to an Ipod with a DAC it's so tiring

[Raskolnikov]

THE RUBANO TAPES have arrived at my home as of today. The wife and children rejoice. Complex emotions abound in our home to know that we are one of the chosen few to own such a priceless piece of historical value, an antiquity for this modern age.

[slunken]

i'm just glad this DOR (digital on record?) company is actually putting in the work when BILLY isn't

who knew bootlegs would be better than the real thing? SP fans in 2022??

[slunken]

I'm still waiting on 3 more UNOFFICIAL BOOTLEG ALBUMS including the fabled MACHINA 2 BOOTLEG UNOFFICIAL ALBUM UNOFFICIAL PRESS

i figure hey if Billy refused to give us the goods, I guess I have to choose other avenues.

It's only money out of my pocket. If he cares or not doesn't give a fuck to me.

[slunken]

too bad mr moneybags daddy doesn't care though

[NickS]

We've got some good full shows in the SPLRA pipeline.

Please let me know when everyone receives their rubano tapes record. We're working some early shows.

[slunken]

everyone just sent me a dm (crazy i know) and literally everyone has received their rubano album

[slunken]

Originally Posted by NickS

e're working some early shows.

Tell Billy that absolutely 100% (well maybe 90% i try to be fair) no one wants these 80s shows

[slunken]

Originally Posted by slunken

we're never going to get any late or even mid period full shows because it would take 3 or 4 records. we're probably never going to get any demos because the record company now owns them because of the reissues. radio shows are off limits i would guess because why record a professionally recorded show/session?

ugh this is grim

0000
this is the reality

[slunken]

yea ok "early shows" wowee can't wait

[MyKeyZ]

Am I the only one who doesn't really like earlier/80s Smashing Pumpkins? I'm more interested in stuff from Gish and onwards. Pre-Gish, their sound was all over the place.

I think I would actually be more excited by a remixed Zeitgeist reissue with bonus material than 80s Smashing Pumpkins demos/live show.

I know, blasphemy.

[eviltimeban]

Some of it is ok, but there's a big gap between something like My Dahlia and Sun.

There again, there's a gap between something like Obscured and Hello Kitty Kat.

[Slygmous]

Originally Posted by MyKeyZ

Am I the only one who doesn't really like earlier/80s Smashing Pumpkins? I'm more interested in stuff from Gish and onwards. Pre-Gish, their sound was all over the place.

I think I would actually be more excited by a remixed Zeitgeist reissue with bonus material than 80s Smashing Pumpkins demos/live show.

I know, blasphemy.

The 80s stuff is alright, but I wish they'd skip to post-1995 where they were properly recording their shows.

Alabaster is great though.

[slunken]

Originally Posted by MyKeyZ

Am I the only one who doesn't really like earlier/80s Smashing Pumpkins? I'm more interested in stuff from Gish and onwards. Pre-Gish, their sound was all over the place.

i go super hard for almost every bands early work but SP is a hard pass for me

you can hear them figuring out what sound to emulate and that bothers me

probably because i love their later work so much i don't want the mystique/calculations to be so obvious

[slunken]

also gripped in the mail today "dancing in the moonlight" (93 NL radio show and a 91 record store show) and "the beautiful people" (toronto much music 98 broadcast)

[slunken]

worth it just to hear billy ask "what's OPP?"

[Ram27]

Originally Posted by MyKeyZ

Am I the only one who doesn't really like earlier/80s Smashing Pumpkins? I'm more interested in stuff from Gish and onwards. Pre-Gish, their sound was all over the place.

I think I would actually be more excited by a remixed Zeitgeist reissue with bonus material than 80s Smashing Pumpkins demos/live show.

I know, blasphemy.

completely same

at least with the newer stuff we could shit on it and have a good time. 80s is just... i do not care, it's totally raw comparatively, just not interesting

[Shallowed]

i like it

[Copperpot5]

Originally Posted by NickS

We've got some good full shows in the SPLRA pipeline.

Please let me know when everyone receives their rubano tapes record. We're working some early shows.

Thanks, Nick!

[TheSultanOfCyr]

Originally Posted by MyKeyZ

Am I the only one who doesn't really like earlier/80s Smashing Pumpkins? I'm more interested in stuff from Gish and onwards. Pre-Gish, their sound was all over the place.

I think I would actually be more excited by a remixed Zeitgeist reissue with bonus material than 80s Smashing Pumpkins demos/live show.

I know, blasphemy.

Agreed on the second paragraph, but there’s some some real cool 80s stuff that’s worth at least sampling. Obviously There it Goes, think that’s the song Corgan’s still most proud of from that era. I really like the song My Dahlia, think that’s great. Also a song that’s a bit more elusive called She, which I think is awesome. That one slips through the cracks, definitely check that song out. East and Psychodelic are cool too, definite, definite precursors to their later sound, especially the former which just sounds like a Siamese Dream demo.

Might be nice to have a wee lil 80s Pumpkins comp album like Pisces someday. Just because I know very little about it beyond the few tracks I’ve listed.

But yes agreed I need me my Asheville/Fillmore acoustic residency songs!

[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by TheSultanOfCyr

Might be nice to have a wee lil 80s Pumpkins comp album like Pisces someday. Just because I know very little about it beyond the few tracks I’ve listed.

You just know if Billy does that it'll be a restrictively expensive vinyl-only release.

[ourruseoffools]

Originally Posted by MyKeyZ

Am I the only one who doesn't really like earlier/80s Smashing Pumpkins? I'm more interested in stuff from Gish and onwards. Pre-Gish, their sound was all over the place.

I think I would actually be more excited by a remixed Zeitgeist reissue with bonus material than 80s Smashing Pumpkins demos/live show.

I know, blasphemy.

Gish era is no better than pre-gish… bill became a Real songwriter when he was living in their practice space

[topleybird]

Stuff I particularly like that's pre-Gish: Jennifer Ever, There It Goes, Under Your Spell, always kinda dug Razor, and of course, their greatest achievement: S P I T E F A C E