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02-01-2018, 07:14 AM | #1 | |||
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Saint Patrick and the **** Machina Mystery.
I've gotta get this out of my system: Billy is obviously using a conceptual framework for the role of audience, celebrity, and God that he's been using to inform his lyrics since at least Machina. It's like, I *think* he's added a deeper layer of meaning to his work, but I can't quite get it.
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ENTER THE RABBIT HOLE I mean, maybe everything in GATMOG is true. Maybe Billy had an epiphany in his attic while listening to starz on the radio that changed his life. Maybe the sacred world is being channeled into the profane world through the radio, and... Quote:
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02-01-2018, 07:15 AM | #2 |
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M E T A M A C H I N A M Y S T E R Y (fucking censored title) |
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02-01-2018, 10:58 AM | #3 |
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What I'm getting from this is that **** is censored?
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02-01-2018, 10:59 AM | #4 |
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Well damn would you look at that.
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02-01-2018, 12:03 PM | #5 |
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that's because you touch yourself at night.
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02-01-2018, 01:04 PM | #6 |
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Anaise! Anaise!
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02-01-2018, 04:32 PM | #7 |
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****...stase.
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02-01-2018, 08:02 PM | #8 | ||||
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TIN FOIL HATS ON
Billy's summary of the Glass and the Ghost Machines story (available here) lays out an explanation for the last 20 years of his career. He literally says he was a big, empty celebrity named Zero who looked out into the crowd and saw 'a billion shattered souls'. He was listening to the radio wondering how the greats resonate with the world (maybe he heard himself among them), and realized it's the voice of God speaking through them. He also literally says that he was humbled to have been chosen by God to be a messenger. Now check out this quote about what a Saint actually is: Quote:
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Pop star / what's our mission / Do we know / but never listen Born of love and cast in light / don't you know we cannot die / we are stars WELCOME TO THE META MYSTERY |
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02-01-2018, 08:07 PM | #9 |
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Am I president of Sad Machines yet?
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02-01-2018, 08:28 PM | #10 |
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i thought it was 'poptart'
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02-01-2018, 08:50 PM | #11 |
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Fuck!
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02-01-2018, 10:44 PM | #12 |
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i like it better as pop star.
good mystery. A+ |
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02-01-2018, 11:15 PM | #13 |
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go on
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02-01-2018, 11:55 PM | #14 |
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Yes, more please, it is happy to read your mysterys
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02-02-2018, 06:01 AM | #15 | ||||||
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TARANTULA AND THE META MYSTERY
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get out i'll take your place then can't stand the blazing sun? then close your eyes you'll see the angel dust Rain is code for the suffering that falls on everyone. It's also used in Speed Kills; "You were one of God's children / left to cry out in the rain / waiting to be saved again". This song mentions light too; "When I ride with you tonight / We can move at the speed of light" (i.e. with God). Blank Page also mentions rain ("The rain falls / my friends call / leaking rain on the phone") -but I doubt he intended to make it a recurring theme at the time. The Beatles' song Rain uses rain as a metaphor for suffering (and they mention the sun too!). BTW, the line before the bridge in Tarantula is: "freeze-frame the pouring rain". Which brings us to... Quote:
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so easy now we are the real in every living soul oh don't they know? And again in the chorus... we are the real, if real ever was and just because we are the ruin of every living soul we are surreal 'cause someone gave us up Ghost is code for a lost spirit, a "shattered soul", one of God's Children. Hence Glass and the Ghost Children. The "skulls of every cog" mentioned in the Everlasting Gaze means "Child of God". Billy also mentions this in GATMOG: "GLASS has aligned himself with god...a messenger he shall be, but is he just a c.o.g. within another c.o.g. within another machine?". A star is a ghost chosen by God, made surreal in the Everlasting Gaze of the audience. I'd need to dig further, but Billy seems to be alluding to the real magic happening when the star aligns with god and the audience at the same time. Run 2 me / where the sun never leaves! |
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02-02-2018, 06:08 AM | #16 |
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Flat Earth confirmed
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02-02-2018, 06:13 AM | #17 |
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Lover, you're strange 2 me.
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02-02-2018, 09:13 AM | #18 |
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rain and suffering as a commonality that everyone experiences has been literary theme for CENTURIES.
people that make it/succeed the level they were in the 90's obviously feel a certain 'god speaking through me' moments of doubt. It's an obvious progression. once you know you've got millions of people listening to you, it'll 100% affect what you want to choose to communicate to them. wanna call that influence 'god'? eh. Personally i'm chaotic negative, but I could see how that position could change someone. And personal change is something that's hard to fully grasp when its' thrust upon you the way it is with fame. Sure, call it 'real magic'. the only thing that's met*a about this is how billy didn't really have anything to say once he got there, so he just talked about being there. like famous rappers rapping about all their gold and wealth once they've gotten it. Sorry dude, us plebs down here don't got those riches and don't get what you're on about. |
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02-02-2018, 01:11 PM | #19 |
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02-02-2018, 02:20 PM | #20 |
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Here's something to add to the mystery. Siamese Dream album cover star is also the ZERO star. SD and MCIS are his biggest albums.
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02-02-2018, 03:27 PM | #21 |
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Platypuses?
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02-02-2018, 07:19 PM | #22 | |
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As for God...
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02-02-2018, 07:22 PM | #23 |
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Acid burnout.
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02-02-2018, 09:19 PM | #24 |
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My man got bullet points
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02-03-2018, 08:25 PM | #25 |
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I got bullet points all day!
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02-03-2018, 08:37 PM | #26 |
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The Machina mystery is just so very deep and intellectual. A very stable genius must have come up with it.
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02-03-2018, 09:12 PM | #27 |
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I believe crazier things are possible in SPLand.
1999: Billy: "I've been thinking. We should come together as a group. Like, live in a house together for a month and reconnect with each other as people. Also, you will now refer to me as Glass at all times. Jimmy, your name is now "Thunder Jack", D'Arcy, you are "Namel" and James, you shall henceforth be referred to as "Snaky Tooth". "Uh, Bill, I think you-" "Shut the fuck up, Snaky Tooth." "Well, fuck this. *Leaves* |
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02-03-2018, 09:56 PM | #28 |
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I'm listening to Heavy Metal Machine from the 2007 AOL Sessions...
Not so fast You didn't think I'd look back But sometimes you just need some Glass So sit back and relax ...and the heavy metal chant? Heavy metal / resurrection machine |
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02-03-2018, 10:24 PM | #29 |
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It's about meth, dude.
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02-03-2018, 10:39 PM | #30 |
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There are so many layers...
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