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Old 05-29-2014, 02:25 AM   #1
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Default Do people like Lenny Kravitz and Oasis because of nostalgia?

Most of their work is steeped in nostalgia. Nothing contemporary about them. So is their biggest audience people who are fond of music from the 60s and 70s?

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:56 AM   #2
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Contemporary is synonymous with shitty.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 05:47 AM   #3
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Lenny Kravitz is the new Jimi Hendrix man

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 05:48 AM   #4
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In all seriousness, at least Oasis had a handful of good tracks. I've never understood how anyone could actually fucking like Lenny Kravitz.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 05:51 AM   #5
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But yeah, that's an interesting question. I suppose Kravitz was just the "retro act" of the time. Similar to bands like Jet or whomever. It's hard to say though, because there was tons of dad-rock that was still big and relevant at that time. So he wasn't necessarily just a "throw-back" artist.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:01 AM   #6
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I hate lenny kravitz and never cared for Oasis. I failed to understand why even people with decent taste liked them. Boring and predictable all the way through to my ears. And then there's Liam's singing.....

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:58 AM   #7
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Contemporary is synonymous with shitty.
that's a stupid thing to say, no it's not

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:01 PM   #8
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does anyone care about jet anymore i haven't thought about that band in at least a decade

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:38 PM   #9
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i dunno.. lenny wasnt really that retro. he just looked like it

5 was a pretty good album. at least it was when i was 15

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:43 PM   #10
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that's a stupid thing to say, no it's not
Idk, there's a reason retro style bands are popular and I don't think Iit's nostalgia. The direction music has moved in is boring so it's like they're running in the other direction.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 03:30 PM   #11
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that's not what contemporary means, dude

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 04:19 PM   #12
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Rediscovered Oasis thanks to the Definitely Maybe remaster that just came out. Their first few albums were really great and The Masterplan has some great songs on it.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 04:48 PM   #13
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i dunno.. lenny wasnt really that retro.
his entire schtick was steeped in it.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:15 PM   #14
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lenny kravitz is terrible. completely. terrible.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:03 PM   #15
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Kravitz and Oasis don't have anything particular in common for me.
I'M GONNA STAAAND BYYY MYYY WOMAN, on the radio in 91/92?, that's all I remember.


Don't think I ever heard more people sing than at the Oasis concerts at Wembley, loved it.
Hardly ever listen to them now, but when I do it's partly for personal "nostalgia"/memories, and they had some really nice songs.







 
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:32 PM   #16
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Oasis is just bland. They're okay to listen to but where's the hook?
There's nothing interesting about them.

There's a lot of Brit indie bands like that. They have like Smiths style guitars but uninteresting lyrics and boring vocalists. It's 80's style rock without the gender bending edge.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 08:53 PM   #17
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"There's a lot of Brit indie bands like that "

You don't say. That's called Britpop. A music genre when you were wetting your diapers.

 
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yeah they're also not indie and they are fucking huge

and this is a catherine wheel thread are you guys not used to how he has this magical knack for comparing two things that have very little to compare with each other

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:36 PM   #19
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I didn't say Oasis was indie..
But they are boring.

 
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:57 PM   #20
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i'm sure most of the indie brits you think are indie are on major brit labels

 
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Old 05-30-2014, 12:34 AM   #21
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Oasis were on Creation once

 
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:46 PM   #22
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his entire schtick was steeped in it.
Exactly. His smash hit "are you gonna go my way" was pretty much just a straight up, nostalgic Jimi Hendrix rip-off.

Kravitz was just a "throwback" artist that all of the music fans of yesteryear could "appreciate"

 
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Then again Aerosmith was still culturally relevant at the time with their dad-rock. But atleast they were the originators still doing their thing, not some young-ass kid wannabe.

 
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Old 05-30-2014, 07:58 PM   #24
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Out of the Big 3 of Britpop (Blur, Oasis, The Verve) Oasis were the only ones that were truly throwback dad-rock type stuff.

 
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I think it's time most of you realise the 90's was a fucking wasteland for good music (yeah yeah some exceptions, sure). Except for those that still think grunge was any good. I can't help you. I wish I'd been a teenager in pretty much any other decade. But I guess it's easy to idealize what you didn't live through.

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Oasis is just bland. They're okay to listen to but where's the hook?
There's nothing interesting about them.

There's a lot of Brit indie bands like that. They have like Smiths style guitars but uninteresting lyrics and boring vocalists. It's 80's style rock without the gender bending edge.

I wouldn't say that Oasis had in any way Smiths guitars if that's what you were implying (its not clear) even despite the fact that Marr DID lend one of this guitar to Noel Gallagher sorta in the beginnings (who smashed it over someone's head at a show so Marr never saw it again). I think less of Marr for having endorsed Oasis. then again I think less of people for pretty much any bullshit reasons all the goddam time.

 
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Old 05-30-2014, 08:06 PM   #26
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The 90s: responsible for shoegaze, trip hop, downtempo, jazz rap, third wave ska

It was a great decade for music.

 
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The 90s: responsible for shoegaze, trip hop, downtempo, jazz rap, third wave ska

It was a great decade for music.
didn't the term dream pop exist pre 90's? Shoegaze I can take and leave some. trip hop, meh. third wave ska, THIRD WAVE SKA AND YOU SAY GREAT DECADE? please kill me now, right the fuck now. It almost ruined proper ska as a genre.

I don't even fucking know what downtempo is. But probably I shouldn't care.

you left out grunge, nu metal, brit pop (which DID have some good bands, like..2 or 3), etc etc.

Post rock I think wasn't really around before the 90s either? Again can take some, but don't like most.

 
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shoegaze came considerably before 1990

 
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Out of the Big 3 of Britpop (Blur, Oasis, The Verve) Oasis were the only ones that were truly throwback dad-rock type stuff.
Pulp's His n Hers and Different Class killed any of those bands. Unfortunately pulp was a revolving door kinda band with cocker as only constant and they never got as good after.

 
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Dream pop didn't really become marketable and successful until the 90s. The Cranberries and the Sundays were huge. So I think the 90s can kind of claim it

 
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